1 edit | Downloads speeds I do not know exactly where this should please move if wrong.
I have Comcast for my internet, cable and phone. I am on the 12meg down and 2 meg up internet service. I took some speed test using Comcast test site, dslr test site and speakeasy test site. Comcast Portland OR the reading is 28 meg down and 1.9 meg up. Dslr Tacoma .75 down 1.8 up. Some other was from from 1.5 to 32 meg down.
It took 50 min to download a 109 meg Norton security suite download. With a 12 meg down and 2 up how much time it should have took?
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 psafuxPremium,VIP
join:2005-11-10
kudos:2 | I came up with 35-40 minutes depending on overhead.
keep in mind that just because you can download @ 12 Mbps doesn't mean Norton can upload @ 12 Mbps.  That would be a hell of an upload. |
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| You came with 35- 40 minutes to download it. I'll accept that. If you 20 to 30 min then I might have been upset. There not to many occasions that more then one site would have me less the 12 meg down.
Thanks
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 drslashGoya AsmaPremium
join:2002-02-18
Marion, IA | reply to Caddyroger
No. It should only take a few minutes with no bottlenecks or contention. |
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psafuxPremium,VIP
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kudos:2 | reply to drslash
As near as I can tell, Norton uploads around 4Mbps - so probably 5 or 6 minutes would be realistic.
I assumed ~1Mbps upload on Norton's end in my prior comment. I took the time to hit their FTP server just now and download a few different files to get an idea of their upload speed.
The flaw with your image is that not many hosts have a 12Mbps upload. Not to mention utilization, saturation, ingress, and a thousand other issues which affect cable speeds. |
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 Hayward K A R - 1 2 0 CPremium
join:2000-07-13
Key West, FL
kudos:1 | reply to Caddyroger
Also because you cable can locally do 12mbs, say noting ablut their connection into the internet.... probably a TON of be people into a relatively small pipe.
This is an issue with cable... you have a ton of 24/7 full bore leeches will slow things down for the many. And that can be node or the pipe into the internet.
DSL though tech slower you have a private pipe more or less to the Internet... and in 5+ years have never even in prime time had my 3mbs connection be substantially below that. It can be depended on 12 mbs is a fluke not a norm.
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Thanks every one. I believe it was firefox 3.7 minefeild that was the cause. I did not try explorer 8. I installed firefox 3.6.3 and the norton security down loaded in about a minute.
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How to Check Internet Speed Please tell me....I wait for your reply:) |
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| said by Alicehaveloc:How to Check Internet Speed Please tell me....I wait for your reply:) Dslr has a speed test. At the top click tools, then speed test, then enter ether Flash 8 plugin based speed test or java. Then their will be a list of cities just click the city nearest you.
Here is another site you can use.
»www.speedtest.net/
Click on the star or triangle closest to your city.
remember the speed may not your correct speed.
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 nerdburgPremium
join:2009-08-20
Schuylkill Haven, PA
kudos:1 | reply to Caddyroger
Flash and java based applications don't work, they are mostly just to give you a rough idea of your speeds. Download ShaperProbe (»www.measurementlab.net/measureme···iffprobe) and run it. It will tell you your speed with and without PowerBoost.
Servers also limit how much you can download. You need to use something like Internet Download Manager (»www.internetdownloadmanager.com/) which will open multiple connections to the server. |
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nerdburgPremium
join:2009-08-20
Schuylkill Haven, PA
kudos:1 | reply to Hayward
This is an issue with cable... you have a ton of 24/7 full bore leeches will slow things down for the many. And that can be node or the pipe into the internet. Any 24/7 "leeches" will either hit the 250MB cap or be "managed". Comcast who has upgraded to DOCSIS 3 in just about every market has plenty of bandwidth to go around.
DSL though tech slower you have a private pipe more or less to the Internet... and in 5+ years have never even in prime time had my 3mbs connection be substantially below that. It can be depended on 12 mbs is a fluke not a norm.
You don't have a magic pipe to the internet, once your connection hits the DSLAM, it's sharing the pipe with every other DSL customer in your area. No different than cable.
And DSL is not "technically" slower than cable, it is slower than cable. |
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Hayward K A R - 1 2 0 CPremium
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Key West, FL
kudos:1 | said by nerdburg:This is an issue with cable... you have a ton of 24/7 full bore leeches will slow things down for the many. And that can be node or the pipe into the internet. Any 24/7 "leeches" will either hit the 250MB cap or be "managed". Comcast who has upgraded to DOCSIS 3 in just about every market has plenty of bandwidth to go around. DSL though tech slower you have a private pipe more or less to the Internet... and in 5+ years have never even in prime time had my 3mbs connection be substantially below that. It can be depended on 12 mbs is a fluke not a norm.
You don't have a magic pipe to the internet, once your connection hits the DSLAM, it's sharing the pipe with every other DSL customer in your area. No different than cable. And DSL is not "technically" slower than cable, it is slower than cable. said by nerdburg:This is an issue with cable... you have a ton of 24/7 full bore leeches will slow things down for the many. And that can be node or the pipe into the internet. Any 24/7 "leeches" will either hit the 250MB cap or be "managed". Comcast who has upgraded to DOCSIS 3 in just about every market has plenty of bandwidth to go around. DSL though tech slower you have a private pipe more or less to the Internet... and in 5+ years have never even in prime time had my 3mbs connection be substantially below that. It can be depended on 12 mbs is a fluke not a norm.
You don't have a magic pipe to the internet, once your connection hits the DSLAM, it's sharing the pipe with every other DSL customer in your area. No different than cable. And DSL is not "technically" slower than cable, it is slower than cable. In net results it can be as slow, even slower at times... thing is cable can clog up just on your node, before you even get through the entire cable system to even step onto internet. Again with DSL at least you have a direct line to the local systems gateway. And not all cable systems are created equal by a long shot. Even town to town with the same provider.
Some areas they are pretty damn good, others total crap, again even with the same company. And if you prefer not to take TV service most of them ream you on HSI only
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nerdburgPremium
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Schuylkill Haven, PA
kudos:1 | Cable simply offers more bandwidth. Period. |
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 LBDSLLightning BoltVIP
join:2002-01-07
Auburn Hills, MI
1 edit | reply to Caddyroger
If you remove and limitations on the server end @ Norton, and only focus on the time it SHOULD take to download a 109meg file using a 12Mbps connection, the answer would be just over 1 minute. Assuming your ISP is actually getting 12Mbps to your computer.
»www.numion.com/calculators/Time.html
(I used the 10Mbps, as a point of reference)
Now obviously the server hosting the file would have to have the bandwidth to serve that file to you @ 12Mbps as well, so that is an unknown factor here.
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 KenPremium,MVM
join:2003-06-16
Markle, IN | reply to nerdburg
said by nerdburg:And DSL is not "technically" slower than cable, it is slower than cable. That really depends on your area. As of today the fastest speed Comcast offers me is 16/2, and the fastest speed AT&T offers me is 25/3. So right now DSL is faster than cable for me, but once Comcast upgrades my area to D3, then of course Comcast will be faster. |
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Hayward K A R - 1 2 0 CPremium
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Key West, FL
kudos:1 | reply to nerdburg
said by nerdburg:Cable simply offers more bandwidth. Period. ONCE again OFFERS but often doesn't deliver it... or have you actually lived in every market in this country?
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said by Hayward:said by nerdburg:This is an issue with cable... you have a ton of 24/7 full bore leeches will slow things down for the many. And that can be node or the pipe into the internet. Any 24/7 "leeches" will either hit the 250MB cap or be "managed". Comcast who has upgraded to DOCSIS 3 in just about every market has plenty of bandwidth to go around. DSL though tech slower you have a private pipe more or less to the Internet... and in 5+ years have never even in prime time had my 3mbs connection be substantially below that. It can be depended on 12 mbs is a fluke not a norm.
You don't have a magic pipe to the internet, once your connection hits the DSLAM, it's sharing the pipe with every other DSL customer in your area. No different than cable. And DSL is not "technically" slower than cable, it is slower than cable. said by nerdburg:This is an issue with cable... you have a ton of 24/7 full bore leeches will slow things down for the many. And that can be node or the pipe into the internet. Any 24/7 "leeches" will either hit the 250MB cap or be "managed". Comcast who has upgraded to DOCSIS 3 in just about every market has plenty of bandwidth to go around. DSL though tech slower you have a private pipe more or less to the Internet... and in 5+ years have never even in prime time had my 3mbs connection be substantially below that. It can be depended on 12 mbs is a fluke not a norm.
You don't have a magic pipe to the internet, once your connection hits the DSLAM, it's sharing the pipe with every other DSL customer in your area. No different than cable. And DSL is not "technically" slower than cable, it is slower than cable. In net results it can be as slow, even slower at times... thing is cable can clog up just on your node, before you even get through the entire cable system to even step onto internet. Again with DSL at least you have a direct line to the local systems gateway. And not all cable systems are created equal by a long shot. Even town to town with the same provider. Some areas they are pretty damn good, others total crap, again even with the same company. And if you prefer not to take TV service most of them ream you on HSI only You don't have a clue about what you are talking about. |
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4 edits | said by noname10:You don't have a clue about what you are talking about. If you say so after all you are GOD and have been and know everywhere. Not that I haven't been other places, with crappy cable, but now here third iteration of cable since here its still ComCRAP (ATT and TCI before)
Sat dishes all over the island and on their knees begging come back ads in you mailbox AT LEAST once a week, not to mention the papers... that go right in the recycle bin.
And again not to say there aren't good cable areas especially major healthy metros and freshly built places that were a cow pasture 5 years ago.
But many of the older ones are still crap, and yes they do rape you if you don't want TV, basically charging you as much as basic TV plus HSI, and only getting the HSI.
And honestly back in the TCi 80's days we were a primiere (being so small) national test bed for fiber optic... one of the few in the entire country, still analog.. but digital backbone... but they gobbled up too many and FL made them divest.... they sold out to ATT go figure the last monopolists who were divestested.... promised everything delivered NOTHING and in the end swapped cable for telco (DSL)
Now Comcrap but no more Bell South, now ATT South. DSL still rock solid now even if slow ticks right along even through hurricannes...cable well it is Comcrap... still much wanting, know no one happy with them. Most are renters and no cheap option. Most owners I know are sat TV and DSL, because its RELIABLE and WORKS through most anything being single item where many things like cable cascaded just don't don't push come to shove because something up the line failed. Now that no local sat farm and all come from MIAMI... just a serious traffic accident can sever the 150 mile extension cord.
Possible for power too... cable may be dead but UPS will power my Sat reciever for several hours and POTS tied DSL is regquired to have power back up (powering a 12v modem and laptop is easy)... even in much of the island having no power for 3 weeks in some hurricanes... never lost phone service or DSL. First REGULATED batt back up and then Generators. It never failed or blinked, unless a tree hit your house feed. (could be a while last priority) But maybe even a major line they were fixed very fast.
Cable didn't even start until power resotered weeks later and boy did they hate to give that 2-3 week credit to 80% of the city... but no way the town would let them get away with not doing that. (Again they didn't want to but TCI was already in danger of loosing their franchise... did that sold out to state mandate, and sold out to do nothing ATT Broadband... that NEVER was.
Another issue DSL has been here over 12 years...HSI like 5... TSI was supposedly ready to... ATT just needed to through the awitch mostly....never did (and still not Telco at that point) ... Comcrap finally did but its still maybe fast but like the whole cable system totally unreliable.
But again if you had a gen or batt inverter and you had sat good to go... cable didn't even try to BEGIN to restore anything until AFTER power was.
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nerdburgPremium
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kudos:1 | After a disaster, power is always considered the primary utility, they must fix their system first, because phone and cable (which isn't even a utility) depend on power to function.
Cable companies don't usually own the poles either, so if there is damage to poles, it must be repaired by either the phone or power company before cable can make repairs.
Cable/phone guys will not work anywhere near downed power lines.
Doesn't matter anyhow, because few people are watching TV or are on the internet because their power is out.
And Comcast does indeed have battery backups and generators ready to go. |
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