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 Matt3All noise, no signal.Premium
join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC
kudos:12 | reply to tiger72
Re: Same as always from Google said by tiger72:what phone has a better processor than the 1ghz snapdragon? Better is subjective, but the Cortex A8 (at only 550MHz) in the Droid is very, very close to the same speed. There are benchmarks where the A8 @ 550MHz has been show to be much faster than the Snapdragon at 800Mhz. People were drooling over the 1GHz claim, without taking into account instructions per clock cycle. The Snapdragon is ARM, the A8 is ARM, only the Cortex A8 is a later generation of ARM. Think of it like the difference in a Core 2 and the i7. Clock for clock, the i7 is faster.
What will REALLY muddy the water latter, is when the Snapdragon product line migrates fully to the A8 core, rather than implementing Qualcomm's subset of the A8.
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 tiger72SexaT duorPPremium
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kudos:1 | said by Matt3:said by tiger72:what phone has a better processor than the 1ghz snapdragon? Better is subjective, but the Cortex A8 (at only 550MHz) in the Droid is very, very close to the same speed. There are benchmarks where the A8 @ 550MHz has been show to be much faster than the Snapdragon at 800Mhz. People were drooling over the 1GHz claim, without taking into account instructions per clock cycle. The Snapdragon is ARM, the A8 is ARM, only the Cortex A8 is a later generation of ARM. Think of it like the difference in a Core 2 and the i7. Clock for clock, the i7 is faster. What will REALLY muddy the water latter, is when the Snapdragon product line migrates fully to the A8 core, rather than implementing Qualcomm's subset of the A8. But you agree that the Snapdragon is currently still a faster processor. The droid and iphone may "come close", but the snapdragon still wins.
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Matt3All noise, no signal.Premium
join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC
kudos:12 | said by tiger72:said by Matt3:said by tiger72:what phone has a better processor than the 1ghz snapdragon? Better is subjective, but the Cortex A8 (at only 550MHz) in the Droid is very, very close to the same speed. There are benchmarks where the A8 @ 550MHz has been show to be much faster than the Snapdragon at 800Mhz. People were drooling over the 1GHz claim, without taking into account instructions per clock cycle. The Snapdragon is ARM, the A8 is ARM, only the Cortex A8 is a later generation of ARM. Think of it like the difference in a Core 2 and the i7. Clock for clock, the i7 is faster. What will REALLY muddy the water latter, is when the Snapdragon product line migrates fully to the A8 core, rather than implementing Qualcomm's subset of the A8. But you agree that the Snapdragon is currently still a faster processor. The droid and iphone may "come close", but the snapdragon still wins. The Snapdragon at 1GHz "should" be. No one has one to compare yet and to make matters worse, the Nexus One is running Android 2.1 and the Droid is running 2.0.1. Just watching a Youtube video of the Droid with 2.1, the first thing you notice is how much quicker it is. It looks just as fast as the videos I've seen of the Nexus One running 2.1.
For example: »www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ypkGi9Hxt4 Note at :56, "Everything is just super fast, I'm amazed."
Regardless, you can't generalize and say the "Snapdragon" is faster, because the Snapdragon is the processor name. The A8 @ 550MHz is faster than a Snapdragon at 800MHz, we know this, so the "Snapdragon" is not faster. At 1GHz it *may* be faster than the A8 at 550Mhz. The Cortex A8 is already available in 800Mhz variants however ...
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join:2003-10-26
Naples, FL
kudos:1 | Hell, my Moment looks as fast as that thing  | |
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Very interesting read but I can't help pointing out the following:
Contrary to Matt the snapdragon is not a subset of the Cortex A8 it is an evolution of the ARM A8 specification.
"Although Scorpion and Cortex-A8 have many similarities, based on the information released by Qualcomm, the two cores differ in a number of interesting ways. For example, while the Scorpion and Cortex-A8 NEON implementations execute the same SIMD-style instructions, Scorpion’s implementation can process128 bits of data in parallel, compared to 64 bits on Cortex-A8. Half of Scorpion’s SIMD data path can be shut down to conserve power. Scorpion’s pipeline is deeper: It has a 13-stage load/store pipeline and two integer pipelines—one of which is 10 stages and can perform simple arithmetic operations (such as adds and subtracts) while the other is 12 stages and can perform both simple and more complex arithmetic, like MACs. Scorpion also has a 23-stage floating-point/SIMD pipeline, and unlike on Cortex-A8, VFPv3 operations are pipelined. Scorpion uses a number of other microarchitectural tweaks that are intended to either boost speed or reduce power consumption. (Scorpion’s architects previously designed low-power, high-performance processors for IBM.) The core supports multiple clock and voltage domains to enable additional power savings."
Reference site :
»www.insidedsp.com/tabid/64/artic···ore.aspx
Based on the above information and specs I'm inclined to go with the Nexus One as opposed to the Droid or even the Asus Liquid (which also run a snapdragon). My choice falls down to the fact the Nexus One has 512 mb RAM compared to the 256 in the droid and the liquid 
Here's hoping the Nexus one will appear in europe shortly ... | |
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