| Not released yet... The phone is not released yet. How can you make such a claim when nothing has been confirmed. Don't over reach. |
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| What claim? The reviews are from people currently using the phone. The pricing specs are not confirmed yet, but the leaks sound genuine.... |
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Lame Karl: Engadget's Joshua is a self proclaimed Apple fanboy and did a very poor "review."
No phone will ever be as good as the iPhone for him.
The bloggers hyped this device. The price however is in line with what is to be expected and it's fair.
You can't expect Google to subsidize hundreds of dollars per device "just because." That thinking is unreasonable to sustain any business model.
The device isn't restricted to T-Mobile USA's network either. It will work in Europe using their 3G band (2100 MHz) and in Canada with WIND. It's quadband GSM/EDGE with WiFi that will work on any GSM network.
Rumors have been swirling over the past 2 days that they will indeed create a similar device that will support the 850/1900 MHz band for NAM.
Naysayers and self-proclaimed journalists of the industry balked at the idea of an iPhone too. AT&T's network is crap in many areas yet the phone still sells extraordinarily well.
Google and T-Mobile just may have a winner. Wait till the press conference is over, buy a device of your own, write a review and then come back here and tell us what you really think.
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2 edits | The price however is in line with what is to be expected and it's fair. The price is boring, the phone is slightly above standard for a 2010 Android phone, and the carrier support that we know of (T-Mobile only) is not good. If Google announces they intend broad unlocked carrier support including EVDO, or T-Mobile offers some kind of disruptive data plan for the device, then I'll certainly applaud that when they do... |
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Evanston, IL | it is scheduled for verizon release in 2010 |
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»www.google.com/phone/choose?loca···_US&s7e=
Shows a verizon version for "Spring 2010". |
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FBGuyPremium
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Evanston, IL | reply to Karl Bode
there has been no official reviews yet. it is being release right now. lame karl. don't make conclusions until its been released.
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said by Karl Bode:The price however is in line with what is to be expected and it's fair. The price is boring, the phone is slightly above standard for a 2010 Android phone, and the carrier support that we know of (T-Mobile only) is not good. If Google announces they intend broad unlocked carrier support including EVDO, or T-Mobile offers some kind of disruptive data plan for the device, then I'll certainly applaud that when they do... How is T-Mobile "not good"? They cover 200 million POPs in a year and a half. ATT covers 230 million in 4 years. TMO uses 7.2mbps radios nationwide (today's broadband news that apparently slipped your radar). ATT won't have nationwide 7.2 until 2011.
It would be awesome if you tried objectivity for a change. TMO's network is faster (according to ATT's own reasoning behind their "fastest network" arguments), and Verizon's is larger. I can see why iPhone owners (like yourself) might get defensive. You suffer poor service, high prices, and stalling innovation all for Apple fandom.
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1 edit | T-Mobile has poor coverage and no 3g in my entire state, much less in my neck of the woods. AT&T has excellent coverage, and 3g all the way to about a couple blocks from my house. Where I switch to wifi, anyways.
I'm not trying to put down T-Mobile... I'd switch to them if I could, but, their coverage is terrible. |
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kudos:1 | said by Necronomikro:T-Mobile has poor coverage and no 3g in my entire state, much less in my neck of the woods. AT&T has excellent coverage, and 3g all the way to about a couple blocks from my house. Where I switch to wifi, anyways. I'm not trying to put down T-Mobile... I'd switch to them if I could, but, their coverage is terrible. it definitely depends on where you're at, but the fact that they're rolling out 3g in areas that previously only had GPRS (not even EDGE) data indicates that they're certainly on the warpath to surpass ATT's 3g network. At the current rate, by the end of 2010 T-Mobile's network will be larger AND faster than ATT's 3g network. And chances are, they'll have 21mbps 3.75G HSPA+ matching ATT's 4G LTE rollout.
Hence why every time Karl makes general remarks about T-Mobile's network being "bad" (while he's suffering dropped calls on ATT no less), backing them up with fellow iphone fanboys at Engadget, it makes some users begin to question his objectivity.
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| Time will tell. If T-Mobile brings better coverage to my stomping grounds, I'll probably switch (once my contract is up). |
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I didn't say T-Mobile was "not good," I said having the phone fully supported by one carrier at launch was "not good" because it defeats the purpose of offering an unlocked phone and allowing the consumer to shop for a carrier. |
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pstationPremium
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uhm plenty of people have been using it for a while now. i've been using it for a couple weeks. google gave the phone to all their employees weeks ago. |
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i couldnt have said it any better... bravo |
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said by Karl Bode:I didn't say T-Mobile was "not good," I said having the phone fully supported by one carrier at launch was "not good" because it defeats the purpose of offering an unlocked phone and allowing the consumer to shop for a carrier. Karl, this is what you said:
said by Karl Bode:The price is boring, the phone is slightly above standard for a 2010 Android phone, and the carrier support that we know of (T-Mobile only) is not good. If Google announces they intend broad unlocked carrier support including EVDO, or T-Mobile offers some kind of disruptive data plan for the device, then I'll certainly applaud that when they do... Now, I have had contracts with Verizon (back to the Bell Atlantic Mobile days), Nextel (before and after Sprint) and T-Mobile. Many of my friends have ATT (because of the iPhone.) I can tell you now, the BEST customer service is T-Mobile followed by Nextel BEFORE Sprint. Verizon's customer support thinks having them is a priviledge.
As for the service, my T-Mobile is just below Verizon on coverage but way better than all the others in my area. |
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