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Linklist
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Without investors money to expand evaporates

Instead they chose to please investors,
Ignore the need of investors to earn an adequate return and the investors disappear. And the money to make all these EXTRA billions for expansion, you so blithely take for granted, wouldn't exist.


ropeguru
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Mechanicsville, VA

Re: Without investors money to expand evapoporates

said by Linklist:

Instead they chose to please investors,
Ignore the need of investors to earn an adequate return and the investors disappear. And the money to make all these EXTRA billions for expansion, you so blithely take for granted, wouldn't exist.
So advocate taking peoples money and giving them back an inferior product. While I know investors are needed in order to keep it up and running, these so called investors need to start looking into the long term and not just tomorrow.

I have said before and will say again, kick out the day traders looking for a return tomorrow and make it more of long term investments.


Matt3
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said by Linklist:

Instead they chose to please investors,
Ignore the need of investors to earn an adequate return and the investors disappear. And the money to make all these EXTRA billions for expansion, you so blithely take for granted, wouldn't exist.
I'm guessing you missed this part?

said by end of article :
Go look at their financial statements and open up the Financial Operations and Statistics Summary and look at capital expenditures over the past eight quarters. I’m no math whiz, but it looks like capex has gone down by about 30% over the time period. Scroll down a bit to the Wireless section and check out data revenues — they’re up 80% over the same period.
So, capex is down 30% while data revenue is up 80%. Ummm, that prompts a very loud WTF and should piss AT&T customers off to no end.
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moonpuppy

join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD

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said by Linklist:

Instead they chose to please investors,
Ignore the need of investors to earn an adequate return and the investors disappear. And the money to make all these EXTRA billions for expansion, you so blithely take for granted, wouldn't exist.
This is what you get when investors want INSTANT gratification instead of steady income.


jimbo2150

join:2004-05-10
Euclid, OH

said by moonpuppy:

said by Linklist:

Instead they chose to please investors,
Ignore the need of investors to earn an adequate return and the investors disappear. And the money to make all these EXTRA billions for expansion, you so blithely take for granted, wouldn't exist.
This is what you get when investors want INSTANT gratification instead of steady income.


When people's contracts end, iPhone moves on to better pastures, and AT&T starts getting mass exodus (like with their POTS and DSL services), I bet their investors won't be happy then. Sure they make a shiny penny today at AT&T's customers' expense, but when the future becomes now they will be singing a different tune.
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amungus
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Indeed. "Long term" is more than 2-5 years

Watch another "baby bell" have to bail out the other baby bell (SBC) who bailed out "ma bell"

What a mess.



Linklist
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said by jimbo2150:

When people's contracts end, iPhone moves on to better pastures, and AT&T starts getting mass exodus (like with their POTS and DSL services), I bet their investors won't be happy then. Sure they make a shiny penny today at AT&T's customers' expense, but when the future becomes now they will be singing a different tune.
Actually they won't. Because the minute it looks like AT&T is losing customers and future earnings growth estimates are depressed, the smart money will pull out and move elsewhere
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SLD
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Companies this large shouldn't need investors. They should buy back the stock and go private.


Skippy25

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Hazelwood, MO

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And there you have the life of a stock jockey that will sacrifice tomorrow for today.

I am just curious do you guys actually say out loud "screw everyone else, this is for me" when you wake every morning?



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said by Skippy25:

And there you have the life of a stock jockey that will sacrifice tomorrow for today.

I am just curious do you guys actually say out loud "screw everyone else, this is for me" when you wake every morning?
LOL. No we say that in our prayers just before going to sleep.
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txfeinbergs

join:2009-03-10
Allen, TX

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I am pretty much afraid it is the human race that does that in general.


viperlmw
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said by txfeinbergs:

I am pretty much afraid it is the human race that does that in general.
Speak for yourself.

nasadude

join:2001-10-05
Rockville, MD

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without customers, money evaporates


jimbo2150

join:2004-05-10
Euclid, OH

reply to viperlmw

said by viperlmw:

said by txfeinbergs:

I am pretty much afraid it is the human race that does that in general.
Speak for yourself.
I believe he did. Did you see his fine print?
said by txfeinbergs:

Let me enlarge it for you:

"My opinions are my own. Anything I say, type, sign, or otherwise express cannot be taken seriously unless supported with valid evidence. These 'opinions' include, but are not limited to, suggestions of alien attack (foreign or other-wise), brain-sucking slugs, or expressing opinions on behalf of the entire human race."
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woody7
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what I find troubling in all your "posts" is that the most important thing to "ATT" or Telcos in gerneral is the investors, not the people who pay for the service. I am sure that the people using the service "pay" more than the "investors" do, and all they ask for is a service that works as "advertised" . Without users there would be no need for a service. Instead of spending millions in keeping their piece of the pie intact, spend some money on infrastructure, and that will solve the investor problem. These corporations spend more money getting out of fixing/solving an issue than it probably cost to fix/solve. Don't whine when you get carded on your poor service/coverage, then threaten to sue, Peace
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jimbo2150

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Re: Without investors money to expand evapoporates

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I am sure that the people using the service "pay" more than the "investors" do, and all they ask for is a service that works as "advertised".
Note that even you had to put "advertised" in quotations. In the legal realm they get nearly all the wiggle room in the world when it comes to "as advertised." How do you think they get away with advertising themselves as "America's Largest and Fastest" network when, in reality, they are not? They technology they provide, in the few areas they provide it in, and under optimal conditions provide them with the fastest network... but it is consistently over-crowded, 3G is not available in quite a few locations, and their voice service tends to drop calls fairly often. Do you think they are the largest or fastest?
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caco
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Whittier, AK

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Re: Without investors money to expand evapoporates

Wireless is just part of the ATT and even though data revenue is up 80% all that money isn't going into wireless bucket. You have landline losses increasing month after month and slower pick up on dsl and not to mention money spent on Uverse rollout.

In retrospect they probably should have increased their capex budget for Wireless division but if they take money from one area, than some other arera is going to get the shaft.
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