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Re: Holmes on Homes and HGTV in General I have seen Holmes quite a bit, various incarnations, and its easy to pick holes when you are the next contractor.
you never know the full story really.
Always Mike's story or no story..I think not
Lots of these house poor consumers browbeat the contractors into the shoddy mess to..they don't want to pay anything to do it right.
Holmes holier than thou attitude makes me wonder 
I remember once they installed a dryer vent with sheet metal screws a real no no. 
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| said by Tyreman:I have seen Holmes quite a bit, various incarnations, and its easy to pick holes when you are the next contractor. you never know the full story really. Always Mike's story or no story..I think not Lots of these house poor consumers browbeat the contractors into the shoddy mess to..they don't want to pay anything to do it right. Holmes holier than thou attitude makes me wonder I remember once they installed a dryer vent with sheet metal screws a real no no. In the only episode of that show I've seen the problems with the house were almost all just crap work, not cost saving cut-corners. How do you save money by having a reverse grade sewer main?
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Some of the shows the people say how much they were going to pay for the work and even Mike Holmes says they were overpaying.
For a lot of these shows it is obvious that it is not always that the customer paid too little.
And from the way people act, it seems like the contractors did not explain anything to them.
If I hire a contract I want it in writing the itemized cost of materials and the cost of the labor before the job starts. If they know what they are doing and have experience they can easily give you an accurate estimate within a few % of actual.
The contract will also stipulate how hidden problems will be handled and paid for.
The Holmes Inspector even shows more of how people get screwed. It is crazy at how some inspectors will just lie on their reports to the people paying them for protection.
Mike Holmes really knows what he is doing. Anyone that attacks him is just jealous.
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Pittsburgh, PA | I think sometimes people (not singling anyone in particular out) tend to forget that they are watching a TV show. It's not a peak into real time events. It's not even a documentary style show. It has lighting, it has camera blocking, it has interns, it even has retakes.
Im' not suggesting that things are faked, but they are certainly played for maximum effect. Showing a couple of sheets of drywall with too few screws is great, but what about the other 15 or 20 sheets? An electrical junction burried in the wall without a box is definately bad, but it does not necessarily mean the the whole house would have gone up in flames tomorrow. It's all shot an edited for maximum effect, to make Mike Holmes out the be the savior of these poor taken advantage of homeowners. That's certainly ok, but just remember what you are actually watching.
I don't think Mike Holmes is a bad guy. In truth, to me he comes off as extremely whiney on the show. However, I very much respect his dedication and his ability to organize and get donations to help the people that he does. His zeal certainly comes across as genuine. To suggest that anyone that might possible say bad things about him is just jealous, is totally rediculous though. He's just a man and certainly not above criticism.
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| said by Nick_L:I don't think Mike Holmes is a bad guy. In truth, to me he comes off as extremely whiney on the show. However, I very much respect his dedication and his ability to organize and get donations to help the people that he does. His zeal certainly comes across as genuine. To suggest that anyone that might possible say bad things about him is just jealous, is totally rediculous though. He's just a man and certainly not above criticism. Nick Exactly my take on him. I love how he has passion to do things right. However, even many of the homeowners admit that he went way above and beyond what they even wanted.
A recent episode that comes to minds was a Canadian couple who wanted an addition on top of their house. Holmes literally remodeled almost the entire house just to put an addition on it.
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| said by biggbrother:Exactly my take on him. I love how he has passion to do things right. However, even many of the homeowners admit that he went way above and beyond what they even wanted. A recent episode that comes to minds was a Canadian couple who wanted an addition on top of their house. Holmes literally remodeled almost the entire house just to put an addition on it. If the episode to which you are referring is the one where a bedroom was added to an attic, then I would like to point out that the addition was ILLEGAL to begin with and the house had to be remodeled in order to have a legal bedroom addition. |
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If the episode to which you are referring is the one where a bedroom was added to an attic, then I would like to point out that the addition was ILLEGAL to begin with and the house had to be remodeled in order to have a legal bedroom addition.
The addition my have been ILLEGAL (i.e. without permits), but that doesn't automatically apply the "crappy" job label on the project. It just so happens that this contractor was pretty bad.
There are plenty of good contractors who will do smaller jobs without a permit, because that is what the homeowner is looking for in order to reduce costs or avoid the chance of a steep property tax increase. I wouldn't recommend it. But once you bring a city inspector into your home, a $1,000 job can easily turn into a $10,000 job or more for stuff totally unrelated to what you are having inspected. Money that some people don't have right now.
I think this family was nuts anyway to think they could actually add an addition to their house without needing a permit anyway.
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