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kar98

join:2004-04-29
Longview, TX

AT&T to increase prices for U-Verse and DSL

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AT&T's 13 State Region includes Illinois, Indiana, Ohio, Michigan, Wisconsin, Arkansas, Kansas, Missouri, Oklahoma, Texas, Connecticut, California and Nevada.

NormanS
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join:2001-02-14
San Jose, CA
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I will likely be giving up 3 Mb/s Internet. I am right on the edge of what it is worth as it is.
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Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum



mull3tov

@rr.com

reply to kar98
any idea how much of a $ increase? I wanted to get the Pro service for $30/month but it looks like that price is not gonna last.


NormanS
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San Jose, CA
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said by mull3tov :

any idea how much of a $ increase? I wanted to get the Pro service for $30/month but it looks like that price is not gonna last.
I have no clue; but any increase under $5 a month is hardly worth it. My guess for Pro is that the price will rise to at least $35 a month, and maybe even on a par with AT&T Southeast (where 3.0 Mb/s "FastAccess" is $37.95 a month).

Perhaps they will "split the difference", and give us BS (as in "Bellsouth") prices, while giving them SBC uploads (currently, AT&T Southeast charges more for 3 Mb/s, but delivers only a 384 kb/s upload, in contrast with the rest of us (legacy SBC) getting 512 kb/s uploads).

But seriously, a price hike of the magnitude of AT&T Southeast tiers would make Comcast an economically feasible option for me. Unless I just drop back to lower speed of service.
--
Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum


PamelaTS

join:2004-04-20
Dallas, TX
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·Clearwire Wireless
·AT&T Southwest

An increase in Elite pricing better come with faster speed, better performance and matching or surpassing T/W's best offering in N.Tx or (as much as I hate cable companies in general) I'll be switching to T/W HS Data w/o a second thought. I've had SBC/AT&T DSL since 2002 at each of the last three apartments.

Until recently I had an issue paying my electric bill online (TXU) when using my DSL line I can't get there w/o a DNS error. I eoither have to force DNS to something other than the SBC/AT&T default or use my Cell phone to connect and pay the bill. I ended up changing electric providers that still does not excuse SBC/AT&T.

btw customer tech support (barely speaking english) tried to tell me that TXU.COM was a special URL not available in my area curiously its registered address is on Bryan Street in Dallas (3 miles from me), and that's the AT&T Dallas CO. Special location ummm don't think so

I'm moving to a downstairs apartment next month, I may just drop all three SBC/AT&T services (POTS, Cell and DSL)
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Gaff
Every Villain Is Lemons

join:1999-09-05
North TX, US

Suddenlink just announced higher speeds here also. It looks like they now have 12Mb and 15Mb packages available in this area, up from 8 and 10.

I'm torn, because I moved away from Suddenlink due to packet loss and speed issues (I was often getting less than 1Mbit at peak hours) but if those issues have been fixed then higher speeds are something I am interested in. On the other hand, my DSL is solid as a rock and has latency that I would have killed for on my cable.
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NormanS
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San Jose, CA
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reply to PamelaTS

said by PamelaTS:

An increase in Elite pricing better come with faster speed ...
Likely the fastest they would offer is 7 M-.768 k. Unless they upgrade the plant to ADSL2.
better performance ...
I don't know about performance. That clearly varies by POP center, and the condition of the local plant (DSLAM to premises) has a lot to do with it. But I've not had any serious performance issues out of the Pleasanton, California POP center. I was moved there because of some issues at the Santa Clara, California POP center.
... and matching or surpassing T/W's best offering in N.Tx or (as much as I hate cable companies in general)
As a rule, ADSL can't keep up with DOCSIS 3.0.
--
Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum


Flippant
So Much For Subtlety
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join:2000-06-04
Katy, TX
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reply to kar98
My family keeps asking me why we don't switch to cable service. The argument about price looks like one which will be harder for me to make. The lack of UVerse development to my house while it is all around me is further disappointing me. I am feeling that at&t may be leaving me in broadband purgatory, while Comcast is clearly making an effort to provide upgrade paths. Although if significant metered limits do happen a small price increase may not seem so bad.



PamelaTS

join:2004-04-20
Dallas, TX
Reviews:
·Clear Wireless
·Clearwire Wireless
·AT&T Southwest

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reply to NormanS

said by NormanS:

As a rule, ADSL can't keep up with DOCSIS 3.0.
Arguing that ADSL can't keep up with something that is NOT available to me in Dallas TX is an EMPTY argument TW/RR does not have DOCSIS 3.0 anywhere in N.Texas (per their tech dept yesterday, no plans exist either), FIOS is also a non-available option here. Essentially they don't cross each others legacy borders. AT&T only does it because of the legacy copper into the home.

The only offering AT&T is giving me for better speed/performance is their newly bumped up U-VERSE tiers. Impressive yes but it only comes bundled with their crappy TV product. I don't want their overpriced crappy TV product anywhere near me.

You presumed that everyone was in CA and had choices I'm in TX not CA the Repugs have decimated any real consumer protections that ever existed here and the AG refuse to stand up for the people unless its the corp oil people or other environmentally unsafe corp pumping tons of what would be illegal anywhere else in the USA into the air. At times it really bites living in the anti-competitive good ole boy state of Texas. The only examples anyone should ever draw from Texas be it utilities, health-care or anything is what NOT TO DO! Because the general public will LOSE, so be warned if someone sides with or endorses a Texas Repug they are siding with policies that will hurt you.
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NormanS
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join:2001-02-14
San Jose, CA
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said by PamelaTS:

You presumed ...
You presumed that I presumed, then mixed in political diatribe with your presumption. I done with this (lest I get spanked for following you off the trail in pursuit of political justice).
--
Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum


Flippant
So Much For Subtlety
Premium,Mod
join:2000-06-04
Katy, TX

reply to kar98
I realize profit, competition and politics kind of get bunched up in most industries, but this is not really the place for politics, plenty of other forums here for that kind of discussion.



StillLearn
Premium
join:2002-03-21
Streamwood, IL

reply to kar98

said by kar98:

AT&T's 13 State Region includes Illinois, Indiana, Ohio, Michigan, Wisconsin, Arkansas, Kansas, Missouri, Oklahoma, Texas, Connecticut, California and Nevada.
Does somebody know what those states have in common in contrast to other states?


d_l
Barsoom
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join:2002-12-08
Reno, NV
kudos:7

They were formerly serviced by SBC?


NormanS
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San Jose, CA
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·Pacific Bell - SBC

reply to StillLearn
There are really two distinct regions since AT&T "Borged" Bellsouth.

After SBC bought AT&T, they changed the corporate ID from "SBC" to "AT&T". Prior to the BS acquisition, the company provided ILEC service to:

Former Ameritech (5 Midwestern states)
Former Southwestern Bell (5 Southwestern states)
Former Pacific Telesis Group (parts of 2 Western states)
Former Southern New England Telephone (1 Northeastern state)

Those comprise the "13 state region" referred to.

Then there is the 9 state, former Bellsouth region: "AT&T Southeast".
--
Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum



wayjac
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join:2001-12-22
Indy
kudos:1

reply to StillLearn
Dsl prices are lower in the 13 State Region
A "modest price adjustment" could end the price differences between the 13 State Region and the 9 State Region
Elite $35
Pro $30
Express $25
Basic $19.95

Elite $45
Pro $40
Express $35
Basic $19.95
**********************************************
DSL Xtreme 6.0 $42.95
DSL Xtreme $37.95
Ultra $32.95
Lite $19.95

Direct 6.0M: $47.95 per month
Direct 3.0M: $42.95 per month
Direct 1.5M: $37.95 per month
Direct 768K: $19.95 per month



StillLearn
Premium
join:2002-03-21
Streamwood, IL

said by wayjac:

Dsl prices are lower in the 13 State Region
A "modest price adjustment" could end the price differences between the 13 State Region and the 9 State Region
While the southeast prices have appeared higher, their speeds are about 20+% higher for similar-sounding plans. As I understand it, they have something called "Fastpath", where the advertised speed is the speed obtainable as opposed to the sync rate.

NormanS
Premium,MVM
join:2001-02-14
San Jose, CA
kudos:4
Reviews:
·SONIC.NET
·Pacific Bell - SBC

They have slower uploads, though:


FastAccess DSL Ultra: 1.5 Mb/256 kb
FastAccess DSL Xtreme: 3.0 Mb/384 kb
FastAccess DSL Xtreme 6.0: 6.0 Mb/512 kb


--
Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum


wayjac
Premium,MVM
join:2001-12-22
Indy
kudos:1

reply to StillLearn

said by StillLearn:

As I understand it, they have something called "Fastpath", where the advertised speed is the speed obtainable as opposed to the sync rate.
Some of the download sync rates bellsouth uses are greater than what is used in the 13 state region and the upload sync rates bellsouth uses are lower than what is used in the 13 state region

The bellsouth 3.0 and 6.0 packages have download sync rates faster than 3500kbps and 7500kbps


d_l
Barsoom
Premium,MVM
join:2002-12-08
Reno, NV
kudos:7

reply to StillLearn
You're thinking of the marketing term of "MaxSync" used by BellSouth, not fastpath.



StillLearn
Premium
join:2002-03-21
Streamwood, IL

said by d_l:

You're thinking of the marketing term of "MaxSync" used by BellSouth, not fastpath.
You are right, of course. Fastpath means non-interleaved.

»AT&T Southeast Forum FAQ »MaxSync Profile?

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