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Re: Holmes on Homes and HGTV in General said by Lurch77:said by biggbrother: Plus he criticizes the contractor who failed to get the job done before him, but we never hear the other contractor's side. This is a good point. I run into a lot of things on my job where I ask myself why another contractor would do something so half assed. Then you see why when after given a customer a quote they balk at the price and want it cut in half. You can only do what the customer will pay for. Seriously? You are OK with doing bad, half-assed and possibly dangerous work because it is what the customer will pay for!?
You either explain to the customer why it costs so much, why you can't halve the price and convince them it is worth it or you don't do the work. Customers low-balling quotes is standard in all industries.
If you do the work you set a pathetic benchmark and in a year when the work fails you will look like an incompetent asshole to the homeowner, the new contractor and if we are all so lucky the world when we see your work on Holmes on Homes. | |  Lurch77Premium join:2001-11-22 Oconto, WI kudos:4 | said by Shark_615: Seriously? You are OK with doing bad, half-assed and possibly dangerous work because it is what the customer will pay for!? I never said we do it. We typically walk when this happens, as shortcuts in the HVAC industry kill people. I would never tolerate a safety issue shortcut. But when it comes to using low quality materials and parts that are not critical, I can't blame a contractor for it. If the customer only wants to pay for cheap stuff and quick installs, well, it is a tough economy right now and contractors still have bills to pay and mouths to feed too.
Bottom line, to cut down a contractor for lower quality work without knowing his side of the story is crap. -- "On a motorcycle, you're penetrating distance right along with the machine. In a car you're just a spectator; the windshield's like a TV." ~ Kenny "Von Dutch" Howard | |  | said by Lurch77:said by Shark_615: Seriously? You are OK with doing bad, half-assed and possibly dangerous work because it is what the customer will pay for!? I never said we do it. We typically walk when this happens, as shortcuts in the HVAC industry kill people. I would never tolerate a safety issue shortcut. But when it comes to using low quality materials and parts that are not critical, I can't blame a contractor for it. If the customer only wants to pay for cheap stuff and quick installs, well, it is a tough economy right now and contractors still have bills to pay and mouths to feed too. If more contractors took the same tack as you did perhaps poor work and unrealistic expectations from customers wouldn't happen, or be as prevalent.
I was insulated from it before I started programming as I was in a niche field but now that I am in computers the same thing happens all the time with customers thinking it must be a piece of piss to build an app because their cousin said he could do it.
said by Lurch77:Bottom line, to cut down a contractor for lower quality work without knowing his side of the story is crap. He shows the work the previous contractor does and he avoids 'cutting them down' but in a lot of cases the work speaks volumes and there is very little justification for what was done.
Look up the Lien on Me episode and let me know if you honestly think that contractor deserves to have sympathy and share their side of the story.
If he was whinging about the quality of drywall or using plastic instead of metal boxes then you are 100% right but for the more serious issue fark em. | |
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