El Quintron
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| Looking to adopt a new Linux
(cross posted from All things Unix)
I posted this elsewhere but everybody here is just so freakin' awsome 
So I wanted to get the TSi peeps input as well.
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I'm looking to adopt a different *nix from Ubuntu seeing as I want to get a little more "in-depth" about linux.
I'm looking for something modern, with a frequent release schedule (rolling release distro maybe?) and hopefully good support for modern hardware.
I would consider myself somewhere between beginner and intermediate, I've compiled a few programs, and I'm not overly terrified of command lines and CLIs.
I was wondering what your preferences were?
I'll be taking your distros, reading up on them on distrowatch and probably installing a few of them on a wired machine.
Thanks again.
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Angelo_
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join:2002-06-18 | deb hands down |
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TSI Gabe
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My preference for linux has always been Gentoo, highly customizable.
I'm not understanding how is it that no one else could suggest anything though. Really, it's a matter of trying them out. I can't tell you what you will prefer or not. Just build a test box, try a few distro and you get to tell. |
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Angelo_
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join:2002-06-18 | gentoo is also nice  , Rob has convinced me to convert from gentoo though =p |
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shepd
join:2004-01-17
Kitchener, ON | reply to El Quintron
Slackware is teh hawtness. Seriously, you'll never need to learn another distro after you learn it. And you're halfway ready for *BSD, too. |
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El Quintron
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join:2008-04-28
Etobicoke, ON | reply to El Quintron
Awsome guys thanks for the imput, I'm just running into a meeting but I'll have a bunch of questions for you guys after I come back.
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Vomio
join:2008-04-01 | reply to El Quintron
Debian.
Start out with a simple install and bloat it to suit your needs.
I'm a sid addict, but I recommend testing as a starting point for most folks, unless it is a server and then stable is the way to go. |
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Guspaz
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If you're already running Ubuntu and you just want to experiment, Debian (Linux) doesn't make much sense.
I've heard good things about Gentoo. Fedora Core does things a bit differently.
If you really want to delve deeper, though, forget about Linux and start looking into Solaris or *BSD.
You can even ease yourself into real Unix with Debian KFreeBSD (Debian with the FreeBSD kernel) or Nexenta (Ubuntu with the OpenSolaris kernel).
Bonus: both of those should be able to do ZFS. Well, Nexenta can, dunno about Debian. The kernel should support it, but if Debian doesn't also include the userland tools...
Or you could just go whole-hog and install OpenSolaris or FreeBSD.
Or A/UX. I've always wanted to try it. |
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Angelo_
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join:2002-06-18 | i prob should mention any linux install i do i don't have any gui |
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shepd
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said by Guspaz  :Or A/UX. I've always wanted to try it. How about MPE/iX? It does UNIX, too. And I think it wins the obscurity title!
»www.openmpe.org/
(My college was using it for student, well, everything until at least into the 2000s) |
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justsomeguy
join:2007-10-08
London, ON
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said by Angelo_ :i prob should mention any linux install i do i don't have any gui glad you mentioned it. |
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El Quintron
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Count so far:
Deb 1
Slackware 1
Gentoo 3
So far; quick history I've tried Debian, Fedora and YDL (having previously owned a PPC mac) I'm not interested in Fedora/RH or YDL.
My previous experience with Debian (on PPC) was good, but I had a few issues with turning my everyday user into a su-doer, and for some reason transmission behaved strangely, as opposed to how it behaved on Ubuntu (on that same machine)
I did install Slackware 12.2 on an older Dell machine at home and I couldn't the ethernet port working, but I would give Slackware 13 another go (recalls this thing about "real" men using Slackware )
Which brings me to Gentoo, I did flirt with installing it a while back, so my question is this and bear with me but I'm under the impression (this could be FUD that I've swallowed whole without thinking about it) but I'm under the impression it takes a while to have your system fully up and running.
For those of you that have installed it how long did it take you to functionnal? How long before you would consider the machine a full production machine?
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Croaker
join:2009-10-01
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| Mandriva for the win.
Plus, Mandriva 2010.0 is available now. While I'm a Gnome user myself, it has excellent KDE support.
Par none the best hardware detection. Friendliest install routine also. Shouldn't take more than 20 mins to complete from scratch.
Checkout the errata here to see if it's for you.
»wiki.mandriva.com/en/Mandriva_Linux_2010 |
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Angelo_
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| any box enter production as soon as the 1st bit is passed through it for production purposes...
i made scripts to setup my unix/linux boxes which helps me bring a system up within minuites. On custom setups i work wit hteh person to find out their needs and develop a solution based off of that. For this there is no time line as every system is different. |
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amranu
join:2009-06-22 | reply to El Quintron
Try Arch, don't have to compile from source like Gentoo, but otherwise very similar, also a rolling release. |
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El Quintron
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said by Angelo_ :any box enter production as soon as the 1st bit is passed through it for production purposes... Althought that's technically correct (the best kind of correct) what I meant when I was asking about Gentoo, is how long before you're Online, with all your hardware working, and either KDE/Gnome/Xfce working?
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Angelo_
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join:2002-06-18 | Obviously the answer is as long as it takes |
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El Quintron
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said by amranu :Try Arch, don't have to compile from source like Gentoo, but otherwise very similar, also a rolling release. Compiling from source isn't all that scary to me, but how does it get apps and programs? Does it have a package manager? or do you compile from source?
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El Quintron
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Etobicoke, ON | reply to Angelo_
Assuming a recent machine, with a beginner level understanding of the command line... are we talking hours, days or weeks? |
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Vomio
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said by El Quintron :My previous experience with Debian (on PPC) was good, but I had a few issues with turning my everyday user into a su-doer, and for some reason transmission behaved strangely, as opposed to how it behaved on Ubuntu (on that same machine) I don't know about your Transmission problem, it works normally for me these days, just had to add one of the magic ports to bypass DPI and make sure UPnP or Nat-PMP are not happening.
To turn an everyday user to a sudoer, you need to install sudo and then add that user to the sudo group. Then set up the abilities for that user in /etc/sudoers using visudo as root. I may have missed something in that description as my memory is old and failing and I don't like using sudo myself. |
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