CoverIt
join:2009-08-07
| Canadian Firearms Registry is NO MORE.
MP's have just voted.
164 yays
137 nays
MP's voted to repeal the firearms registry. it now goes to the public safety committee
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bluebaron2
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| Well hopefully it passes the rest of the hurdles it has to pass through.
And more importantly I hope they devote some of the wasted money towards controlling the real problem - illegally imported hand guns from the U.S.
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NCRGuy
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said by CoverIt  :MP's have just voted. 164 yays 137 nays MP's voted to repeal the firearms registry. it now goes to the public safety committee It is far from NO MORE. Still quite a long trek through the legislative process. |
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CoverIt
join:2009-08-07
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Vote to kill gun registry wins approval-in-principle in Parliament
Conservative MPs, bolstered by a handful of Liberals and New Democrats, have narrowly voted in principle to kill the federal long gun registry. Tory MPs roared their approval as the vote on Bill C-391 was read out in the House of Commons: 164 for, 137 against. The private member's bill, which would end the decade-old registry of most shotguns and rifles, now goes to a Commons committee for further study and possible amendment.
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DKS
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| said by CoverIt :Vote to kill gun registry wins approval-in-principle in Parliament Conservative MPs, bolstered by a handful of Liberals and New Democrats, have narrowly voted in principle to kill the federal long gun registry. Tory MPs roared their approval as the vote on Bill C-391 was read out in the House of Commons: 164 for, 137 against. The private member's bill, which would end the decade-old registry of most shotguns and rifles, now goes to a Commons committee for further study and possible amendment. Political theatre. If an election is called the Conservatives can point to their fulfilling their election promise, one that is popular in rural Canada. It's election politics, pure and simple. Sad for Canada, though.
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dirtyjeffer
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| said by DKS :It's election politics, pure and simple. Sad for Canada, though. no, what is sad is that the $2 billion it cost wasn't put into more meaningful programs...if they want to cut down on the amount of guns and drugs, start arresting the natives that account for most of it.
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said by CoverIt :MP's have just voted. 164 yays 137 nays MP's voted to repeal the firearms registry. it now goes to the public safety committee
The section of the registry is for long guns (rifles, shotguns, etc). You'll never see the registry repealed on handguns. Just as well.
The reasoning for long guns just never made logical sense. It's just a little difficult to conceal a shotgun or rifle as you're wandering down the street. It was a parliamentary placebo to quell the anti-firearms people by treating the law-abiding person who had a gun as a criminal. Heck, just take a look at what Miller has done in TO. Penalize the legal gun owners by making them move the gun club outside the city. Dumb, and dumber.
Looking at my registration certificate for my shotgun, the main specified item is a barrel greater than 47cm. The barrel length is 76 cm in length, and muzzle/rest length is 117cm.
What you want to do is get the illegal guns off the street. Therein lies the problem. handguns, semi and fully automatic weapons come in by the truckload every day, to be sold on the black market, likely for a helluva lot less than you can buy a similar handgun from the local gun shop.
Looking forward to a fond good riddance to this bad piece of useless, ridiculously expensive piece of legislation that serves nothing. |
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Rifleman
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About frigging time. |
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Last Parade
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it's not "yay" |
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vintagewino
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said by Rifleman :About frigging time.
The whole thing shouldn't have ever been in the first place! |
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Thane_Bitter
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Well it created a few jobs in a liberal riding. If you do the math it costs taxpayers about $ 270.00 per long gun, I don't recall if the owners had to pay a fee as well, though I do recall the stories of registration back-logs, and incorrect information being sent out from the registration office.
Damn expensive list at any rate. Perhaps a list of people not eligible to own firearms would have done more. |
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vintagewino
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said by Last Parade :it's not "yay"
YET! Agreed, this is first reading, and now has to go to committee. Still a long path ahead. At least, it's a START! |
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vintagewino
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said by Thane_Bitter :$ 270.00 per long gun, I don't recall if the owners had to pay a fee as well, though I do recall the stories of registration back-logs, and incorrect information being sent out from the registration office. Damn expensive list at any rate. Perhaps a list of people not eligible to own firearms would have done more.
There was no charge to get my guns registered. Didn't think the backlog period was that lengthy at the time, either, and I waited until close to the end. Have not heard back from them since, either.
Still a P.I.T.A. to show your FAC to get ammo, though!
As I had stated earlier, not exactly subtle to walk the street with a shotgun that's almost as long as a crutch! Where do you hide the damned thing???  |
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digitalfutur
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Since the effectiveness of the long gun registry has never been proven, its establishment was a political reaction to a single incident, confirming the axiom that exceptions make for bad law.
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PseudoNIMH
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JOY!
Great News, support C-391 
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Thane_Bitter
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said by vintagewino :As I had stated earlier, not exactly subtle to walk the street with a shotgun that's almost as long as a crutch! Where do you hide the damned thing??? Exactly, which is why sawed-off shotguns are illegal and popular with the criminal set (which don't give a cuss about laws... until they are caught). |
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Last Parade
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said by vintagewino :said by Last Parade :it's not "yay" YET! Agreed, this is first reading, and now has to go to committee. Still a long path ahead. At least, it's a START! no I mean it's "yea" not "yay" |
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DKS
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said by dirtyjeffer :said by DKS :It's election politics, pure and simple. Sad for Canada, though. no, what is sad is that the $2 billion it cost wasn't put into more meaningful programs...if they want to cut down on the amount of guns and drugs, start arresting the natives that account for most of it. Thank you for that wonderfully informed opinion. 
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Last Parade
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| said by DKS :said by dirtyjeffer :said by DKS :It's election politics, pure and simple. Sad for Canada, though. no, what is sad is that the $2 billion it cost wasn't put into more meaningful programs...if they want to cut down on the amount of guns and drugs, start arresting the natives that account for most of it. Thank you for that wonderfully informed opinion. too real? |
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DKS
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said by digitalfutur :Since the effectiveness of the long gun registry has never been proven, its establishment was a political reaction to a single incident, confirming the axiom that exceptions make for bad law. Not according the the Canadian Association of Chiefs of Police.
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It’s unfortunate that the overwhelming public safety argument in favour of the registry is ometimes obscured by issues of cost overruns and budgetary inefficiencies. Any financial laxity is unacceptable, and there can be no question that the registry has cost far more than it should. While we must always ensure public money is spent prudently, we should not be diverted, here, from the most important point. This is about public safety. The registry has made Canada a safer country. The registry has saved lives. We lose it at our peril.
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