JIGA
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Re: COD Modern Warefare 2 ................Who's buying?
said by Ratman_84  :I would love to tear up console gamers. It would be very interesting to see console gamers and PC gamers on the same servers. I foresee the console gamers rage quitting.
Mouse/Keyboard > Gamepad for FPS games. There may be a very few individuals that are very good with a gamepad that could give a M/K users a run for their money... very very few. |
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pwrtoppl
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join:2008-11-21
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im buying a copy |
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DKS
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said by twizlar :Realistically not many users will be able to host lag free games. For 9v9 you will need at least a consistent 2.5mbit upload. And given that the DSL standard in North America is 800 kBps up... 
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DKS
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said by JIGA :said by Ratman_84 :I would love to tear up console gamers. It would be very interesting to see console gamers and PC gamers on the same servers. I foresee the console gamers rage quitting. Mouse/Keyboard > Gamepad for FPS games. There may be a very few individuals that are very good with a gamepad that could give a M/K users a run for their money... very very few. One of my clanmates was playing BF2142 with a console pad on his PC this week. He got cleaned.
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jenstevedenn
join:2004-10-04
Marathon, NY | reply to crytz
No dedicated servers = No money from me.It's a all about $ now.No lean? No free Map's?No control? 9v9 as a maximum per game? You log in to IWNet and set up/join a game which then functions purely as a P2P match? 3rd party mod's?
Steamworks |
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Fireblade
join:2008-08-27
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This is all about controlling revenue, later can they can easily start charging for their shitty match making and $10 for 2 maps on the PC LOL, $10 for 2 MAPS!!!! Can't believe people on consoles actually pay that kind of money for maps.
Try playing any game with someone hosting locally, anywhere between 200-1000ms+. Unless you're playing from a 100mbit up connection, or playing directly from a datacenter (assuming you're the host) don't bother playing online.
Plus, have any of you guys seen the online perks? They're fucking RETARDED, the game is going to be a camp fuck fest for nukes. At least with a dedicated server, you're able to disable those stupid perks.
This company has gone down hill, it's been added to my pirate list and I already canceled my pre-order a while ago.
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Ratman_84
join:2002-01-31
Sacramento, CA | reply to crytz
The company might as well just start making strictly console games. They're dead to the PC world.
THEY'RE DEAD TO ME!!! |
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C0deZer0
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Main thing I'd want to play from MW2 is the campaign/SP... just saying. The campaign of the first game was fantastic, and even now still makes me regret ever trading in my 360 copy.
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Mustang
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Fort Lauderdale, FL
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said by Ratman_84 :The company might as well just start making strictly console games. They're dead to the PC world. THEY'RE DEAD TO ME!!! Also apparently dead to the digital distribution world too!
Digital distributors boycott MW2
A number of large digital distribution services - namely Direct2Drive, Stardock's Impulse and GamersGate - have announced that they are boycotting Modern Warfare 2 and will never have the PC version of the game on sale on their networks.
The row stems from the Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2's reliance on IWNet for multiplayer gaming, which is built on Valve's Steamworks system and therefore requires the installation of Steamworks to run.
"We don't believe games should force the user to install a Trojan Horse," a Direct2Drive spokesperson told Kotaku.
Activision and Infinity Ward announced that Modern Warfare 2 would make use of Valve's Steamworks system just a few weeks ago, at the same time saying that they implement the system in such a way that there is no support for dedicated servers and user-generated content.
The Steamworks tool kit itself however can be used to add a number of functions to Steam games, such as game authentication, auto-patching and syncing with the Steam Cloud. Valve have previously claimed that the system would make DRM completely obsolete and have released the system for free as a way to encourage developers to use it.
Direct2Drive has claimed it will boycott the title as it is unhappy that the game should require the installation of a rival's software and that it will not support or sell an Steamworks games until Valve "decouples itself from the marketplace". »www.bit-tech.net/news/gaming/200···tt-mw2/1 |
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Mustang
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Fort Lauderdale, FL
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said by kw :Yeah, I'll bet that big-bad online petition will really change the world.  Its getting the attention of the people who matter at least..
We're watching it very carefully and paying attention to it," said Griffith when asked in a conference call about what Activision thought of the player reaction against these changes and the 180,000-strong online petition. »www.bit-tech.net/news/gaming/200···-on-pc/1 |
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kw
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| said by Mustang :said by kw :Yeah, I'll bet that big-bad online petition will really change the world. Its getting the attention of the people who matter at least.. We're watching it very carefully and paying attention to it," said Griffith when asked in a conference call about what Activision thought of the player reaction against these changes and the 180,000-strong online petition. » www.bit-tech.net/news/gaming/200···-on-pc/1 You might as well post the rest of it instead of pulling stuff out of context...
"But we're not overly concerned about it...One of the problems with our PC SKUs in the past is that it has not been as friendly a consumer experience in terms of matchmaking and online play as the consoles have allowed it to be," he said. |
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Mustang
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Fort Lauderdale, FL
1 edit | But they are paying attention to it...that was the point of the quote and therefore not taken out of context at all.
In fact, the other quote you included shows how out of touch Activision are with the average PC gamer.
From the same piece;
He also claimed that the move to axe dedicated server support was one which would "improve the consumer experience overall by a significant margin", according to Kotaku.
Really? That doesn't appear to be the opinion of the PC gamer.
What was the title of Judge Judy's book when she first became famous, 'Don't pee on my shoes and try to tell me its raining'? |
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Jigsaw
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said by Ratman_84 :The company might as well just start making strictly console games. They're dead to the PC world. THEY'RE DEAD TO ME!!! Really to me it is nothing but a Money Grab from unsuspecting PC gamers .Its nothing but a Console game trying to be PC game for extra Cash.There will be no community and the game will be dead by spring.All i hear is but but its single player is awesome(Yea All 4 hours of it)I played the first MW in one night.Rats right its dead to PC gamers and the console bunch will stick with it till the next big thing comes 2 weeks later.
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Mike
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Pittsburgh, PA
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MW2 is just a straight port from the console version.
It explains all the limitations as well. |
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Thaler
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Encino, CA
| reply to Mustang
said by Mustang :Also apparently dead to the digital distribution world too! Aren't they on Steam? Kinda the largest digital distributor of them all? |
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Ratman_84
join:2002-01-31
Sacramento, CA
| reply to crytz
I think we've reached a good place to make a closing statement.
Buy the game if you are OK with paying more for less, are generally uninformed and noobish, and enjoy being taken advantage of.
Don't buy the game if you are the exact opposite. |
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pp03
join:2002-06-13
Minneapolis, MN | reply to crytz
I pretty much only use my PC for MMO's these days.
That said, can't wait for this and l4d 2 to arrive for my 360.
woo woo
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badtrip
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I dunno. I was pissed at the PC multiplay but if this is a console game then so be it. I want to see the single play.
I have all the consoles and I ended up buying it for the PS3 on Amazon. With the $20 credit Amazon is giving, it makes two games reasonably priced. |
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TigerLord
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| reply to crytz
Re: COD Modern Warefare 2 ................Who's buying?
All digital distributor except Steam are boycotting MW2... apparently you need steamwork to make the multiplayer work.
Might explain the insane price tag of 59.99$ for the regular version of the game?
What a bunch of morons, I wouldn't be surprised if the game was pirated to death to take advantage of the single player campaign then beu-bye! |
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