swhx7
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After a burglary, we're feeling a lot less safe in this house. I'm considering buying a gun. So I'm wondering what kind is best. Or if you think this is a bad idea, please say why, exactly. |
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| A few threads in this forum for an interesting read 
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»Calculating a gun shot |
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You're bound to get some of the most useless advice ever about guns by asking on a broadband forum.
I suggest »www.defensivecarry.com for general firearm and concealed carry advice.
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| said by removed  :You're bound to get some of the most useless advice ever about guns by asking on a broadband forum. I suggest » www.defensivecarry.com for general firearm and concealed carry advice. »www.adultswim.com/video/?episode···1101c1dc
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This is what I like and what I use on the job (armed security). Like a lot of others have said around these parts, go to a gun range and try/rent different types of weapons to get a feel for what fits you the best.
I tried out about 6 different weapons myself before I chose the CZ Phantom. I liked it's accuracy and it felt like something I could carry during 12+ hour shifts.
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Getting a gun without the proper training is a very bad idea. If there are children in the house also a very bad idea. Right now you feel violated and think that a gun will make you safe. Think about other options.
Not personally against guns or using them on people, but without training they are more of a problem than a solution. I'd recommend finding a CCW class in your area.
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LittlePiggie
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Get a big nasty dog instead!
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| said by LittlePiggie :Get a big nasty dog instead!
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said by LittlePiggie :Get a big nasty dog instead! And a gun. When the dog eats the kids you can shoot the dog  |
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I'm a gun owner, concealed weapons permit holder, NRA member, and a Glock certified Armorer. I like guns... but if you don't know how to use one or control one, it wouldn't do you any good.
A good pistol is going to run in the ballpark of $500. Plus you need to get training on how to use it, plus any necessary licensing, permits and other accessories.
As a first "strike", I would recommend a good alarm system. Sometimes just the presence of an alarm is a good enough deterrent to keep a criminal away. Also, basic security principals will help as well. Make sure your windows are locked, doors are securely locked and locksets are of a high quality. Keep your property well lit, so there are no dark places for a would be intruder to hide. Lights on motion sensors are always a good thing...
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Wow, this topic comes up so often they should make a separate forum for it!
You're going to get a lot of conflicting opinions, and probably some heated arguments, regarding what kind of gun is "best" or even if you should have one in the first place.
But the advice of getting some training is something almost everyone agrees on. A good training class will give you the information you will need to make a solid, mature decision. In some cases, after going through a class students decide they do not want gun after all. That in itself makes it a worthwhile effort.
Whatever you are told here may be ideal for the person giving the advice but totally irrelevant for your personal situation.
The NRA has general training courses for all types of firearms as well as training specific to home security. If you choose a course that is not NRA-sanctioned, then do your research carefully as many of them cost big $$ and don't even include live fire practice.
I also suggest do not buy any firearm of any kind until you've had some instruction.
Good luck!
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Wait a few weeks until you're thinking more rationally. |
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swhx7,
First thing I recommend is that you check your local laws about firearm ownership.
Second if you are legally able to own and use a firearm for self-defense go to a local reputable gun shop that has a firing range and training classes. Talk to the most knowledgeable person at the range/gun shop about what you want and why. The less experience you have with firearm the more important it is to learn all you can about them and thier pros/cons. Hands-on is the only good approach to your dilemma you can read about it all day on the internet and still be confused.misinformed. After this hands-on research and test firing of different guns get what you feel comfortable with.
Third after you have made your decision and purchase get your Concealed Carry permit. Once you have a firearm you like and a permit to carry/use it, spend as much time on a range as possible. Don't just go and buy something, throw it in a closet and not practice using it in defensive situations.
Consider other avenues of defense if you are not 100% certain you want to use a firearm on another person, this is a irreversible decision. Once you pull the trigger on someone else your whole life can and probably will change.
I am not against firearms in any way, I own several and use them as regularly as possible and have been doing so for the last 25 years. The main thing is to know what you are getting into. The children in the house accident scenario can be avoided completely with education of yourself and your family so that should not be a deciding factor.
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If the dog is trained properly the kids would be safe. Though IMO some of the brats and their parants deserve to get chomped on by the big nasty dog.
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A gun can have a use. However, home security should be first.
Then I went to a site suggested by removed in this thread. One poster there needed his wife to get a carry permit so she could walk alone across the street at night from their hotel to a quicky mart to get him medicine.
If it is bad without a gun it is still bad with a gun. Just because you now have a carry permit does not mean you are invincible waiting for your chance to try your luck against the bad guy.
I do agree they have uses. Traveling alone cross country you never know where you will get stranded or who will come along. Other things also. But I think some once they have a gun lose common sense. I have a gun now I am free to go wherever and whenever I want as I can defend myself. Hey I can park next to that weird group of people I have a gun. To me waiting for their first trophy kill. |
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A few years ago, we had someone open our door. Our dog slinked down stairs emitting a deep growl. The door slammed closed. About 15 minutes later we geta phone call that the maintenance guys needed to enter the apartment to spray for bugs.
We figured it was them.
After that we felt pretty good about owning a medium to large dog [50 to 100 pounds].
Problem is, they need to be walked taken to vets. A firearm, just keep it clean, the owner trained and it should be good to go.
Though IMO, if you are the type to hesitate in killing a human being, you have no business in owning a fire arm. You have trained soldiers that hesitate in killing the enemy and end up dead, or the shoot first before determining the target.
Hunters might be more able to drop a human, as they have worked out the issue of "buck fever". If you have never shot a living critter before maybe going on a few hunts will help.
But like I said, it's a deal breaker if you hesitate and the crook doesn't.
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You say it was a burglary, not a break in/home invasion so I take it you were not at home at the time of this crime? Think what that would mean if you had already had a gun at home lets say in a drawer or under the mattress then you would now have a gun stolen and out in the hands of a criminal being used on the street for further crimes unless you were carrying the gun with you every where that you go when not at home. Do you really want to supply a criminal with a FREE gun that is in your name? If you want to keep a gun at home, I suggest taking a gun safety course, then a firearms training and tactics class then get your concealed carry permit. After that, buy the gun you have decided on then I highly suggest getting a gun safe to keep it in that is bolted to the floor or concrete so that it can be placed there when you leave the home (when not wearing it outside) along with keeping your important papers and other valuables inside. At the very least get a locking pistol case like this that keeps anyone but you from getting to the gun when it is out of the safe and not on your person in a holster.
Good Luck! Stay Safe
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said by Kilroy :Getting a gun without the proper training is a very bad idea. If there are children in the house also a very bad idea. Right now you feel violated and think that a gun will make you safe. Think about other options. Not personally against guns or using them on people, but without training they are more of a problem than a solution. I'd recommend finding a CCW class in your area. Excellent advise but the bigger question is, if you have a gun and are confronted with a situation where you had to use it could you pull the trigger. It's not always as easy as it sounds.
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Hi,
I feel your pain. I live in what is considered a very nice area. In June my home was burglarized. Long story cut short.. I have a Home alarm monitored and a nice new .357 magnum 7 shot revolver |
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nonymous
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I had a job with a utility company. Go to houses and would need access into back yards. Looked for homeowners then dogs. Had my nicely marked truck out front with cones out in their front yard in plain sight during the day. Had on my nice hard hat and bright orange vest all nicely marked with company logos. Had my sign in their yard saying workers on site.
Working near our facilities in the backyard easement.
More than once someone would come home and come in the back yard with a drawn gun aimed at me. They knew someone was in the yard. So instead of calling my company and seeing if they had anyone there or calling the police to see if I was legit they did neither. Gun drawn and aimed straight at me they would come into the yard. Some would lower them quicker than others. Not near their house. Plainly marked as if a burglar would have an orange vest on. Daylight hours their gun protected them.
A kid jumping a fence not marked to get a ball may get shot. Too many scared idiots out there. |
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