UAW_30yr
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|  Well Done, Ford!!
"Consumer Reports, in their annual initial reliability survey results released this afternoon, provides good news for Ford, which is perceived as offering quality and reliability on par with Asian automakers. Chrysler, on the other hand, dropped to near-Daewoo levels."
Looks like even the anti-domestic sources are finally admitting what's been obvious for years - Ford makes some great, reliable cars. I think they have a bright future.
Chrysler, though, seems like a lost cause.
»jalopnik.com/5391056/consumer-re···ta-honda |
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PhilAIV
join:2002-02-16
Carrollton, GA
clubs: | It makes me want to dump my old Focus and move to a newer Fusion. Too bad my focus (w/ 201k miles) is still going strong. |
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TearAbite
join:2001-07-25
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
1 edit | reply to UAW_30yr
Gunna take a LONG time to change people's perceptions based on past experiences.. I hope Ford is around long enough to do it.. |
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Lurch77
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+44.88-87.89 | Ford isn't going anywhere. |
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No_Strings
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The OC | reply to TearAbite
They made your Jag. |
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TearAbite
join:2001-07-25
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| said by No_Strings  :They made your Jag. Not really.. Jaguar made the Jag.. Ford just got the profits..
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said by No_Strings :They made your Jag. thats not how it works bud |
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No_Strings
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The OC | That's probably what I'd say if I owned one, too. Don't go by me, though. VW made my Audi. |
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TearAbite
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1 edit | reply to UAW_30yr
Jaguar was an independant company, owned by Ford.. Jaguar designers, Jaguar parts (except for when Ford started craming a shared-parts bin down their throat)..
The point is moot now anyway, because now Jaguar is owned my Tata.. a fate possibly worse than Ford..
At any rate, i'll put my 425HP Supercharged '09 XF against any of you Ford haters.. if i cant beat you on the street, i'll be you in 'style' 
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MattBC
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join:2006-02-01
Victoria, BC
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That's the good thing, is that they have always had good build quality. The poor thing has always been the available choices from them for a car. They've got a lot more going for them right now as far as newer cars go, and I think they started to recognize that having one small car (the Focus) was killing them. However, they have some more cars out recently. I don't like them personally, but they do have some better options. If they came out with a super eco car for commuters they'd like gain some more market share, abut likely all in good time.
Matt
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Lurch77
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I guess that is subjective. The XF is nice, but it certainly does not stand out from many other cars on our roadways. I remember when you knew a Jag when you saw one. Even if you were not a car enthusiast.
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CylonRed
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Bloom County
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Is 'perceived' backed by reality? Did they compare the data to know that the perception is correct.
Perceived could very well not be reality....
Better styling might help me eventually look at them but since I want a used 325i - won't be soon.
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| said by CylonRed :Better styling might help me eventually look at them ... My son and I saw a new Taurus yesterday. We laughed. |
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CylonRed
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Bloom County
| I normally do not care about styling - I have 2 Honda and neither are styling dynamos - although I really like the back end of the hatchback till they tried to make it smoother - mine is a '89 so it is a but more boxy.
I can't however get past the Mach 3 razor look on some of their models on the grill. It is just - horrible....
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TearAbite
join:2001-07-25
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
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Here is my "perception" of ford: old technology and style/Junk
Here is why:
One of my first cars was a 1985 Mustang GT.. the interior was plastic, all the knobs were big and clunky, and the radio had that cheap greenish LED display. However it was 1985, and it was all good
Around 1995 my mother inlaw bought a new Ford Thunderbird. I sat in the passenger seat and it was like i was transported back in time and was sitting in my 85 mustang.. EXACT same knobs on the dash nearly the exact same radio, even the dashboard itself looked exactly the same.
In late 2008 or early 2009 a buddy at work got one of those limited edition Shelby Mustangs.. 550HP, it was awesome.. I got in to go for a ride, and guess what - TIME WARP again! the interior, although changed slightly was STILL 90% the same as my 85 Mustang!
It's going to be hard to change my perception of Ford..
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burgermeister
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join:2000-10-23
Utica, MI
| reply to UAW_30yr
said by UAW_30yr :"Consumer Reports, in their annual initial reliability survey results released this afternoon, provides good news for Ford, which is perceived as offering quality and reliability on par with Asian automakers. Chrysler, on the other hand, dropped to near-Daewoo levels." Looks like even the anti-domestic sources are finally admitting what's been obvious for years - Ford makes some great, reliable cars. I think they have a bright future. Chrysler, though, seems like a lost cause. » jalopnik.com/5391056/consumer-re···ta-honda Yes, but what you'll hear is how long it will take customers to come back. Funny though when you consider it didn't seem to take long for Nissan, Audi, Hyundai, etc. to get customers back. Go figure...
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No_Strings
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TB,
Excellent point.
I used the Mustang as an example for my son at the OC auto show a few years ago. He was 11, and really starting to notice cars - Mustangs in particular. I had him sit in one, observe the interior features, touch things, listen to the door close. Then, I showed him Honda, Audi, Volvo, Mercedes. His eyes were opened.
Ironically, I seriously considered a Mustang when I made my last purchase. A Saleen. They rip out the interior, brakes, suspension and replace with quality stuff. Night and day. It still didn't measure up in other respects, but it's virtually a different car. |
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TearAbite
join:2001-07-25
Rancho Cucamonga, CA | I actually considered a Mustang GT on my last purchase also.. but, well, you know what I ended up with .. |
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No_Strings
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The OC | A ford with extra chrome. |
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burgermeister
All Computers Are Junk
join:2000-10-23
Utica, MI
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Interesting that you mentioned the doors closing. I have a friend who was considering a Mustang a few years back and had the same problem with the car. He said way the doors sounded 'cheap'.
I still love the car, but I've never driven or been in one. If I were looking to buy that type of car, I'd still check one out. Apparently the 2010 has been redone and I suspect it's much better than it's predecessors -- as are most Fords.
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