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AnonShawUser

join:2006-06-17
Calgary, AB
reply to cid
Re: High-Speed Nitro available in Calgary now

If they're having problems keeping the modem in stock, then that means there is a much larger market than they thought. Which could be why they slashed the price so quickly.

netwerk007

join:2009-08-09
reply to asdasda1
Wow its pretty amazing to see 90mbit down.


kino0924

@sfu.ca
reply to asdasda1
Anybody using Nitro service at Vancouver area?
I would like to share some information if anybody is using.

Thanks


Kino0924

@sfu.ca
reply to asdasda1
Anybody using Nitro service at Vancouver area?
I would like to share some information if anybody using Nitro.


Me Jeff

@enmaxenvision.net
reply to asdasda1
I can't wait for the DOCSIS 3.0 to be available to business customers.


arya_2288

@shawcable.net
 reply to asdasda1
"Anybody using Nitro service at Vancouver area?
I would like to share some information if anybody using Nitro."

I'm living in Vancouver, and I will be getting it on Sunday. I guess I can take some screen caps - if you're still interested.

rogerlebo

join:2002-06-29
Levis, QC
Yes, we are still interested.


arya_2288

@shawcable.net

reply to asdasda1
Hey guys,

Its not like I forgot, but there are some issues with my Nitro in Vancouver. My upload is going to 4.0 mbps however my download is stuck around 30-40 and during peak 25 mbps. I've contacted shaw about this problem and they will be monitoring the nodes to see data flow. I will post a speedtest when this issue is resolved as I feel I may be the only one with this problem and other nitro users are not experiencing the same thing.

thanks for your patience.


CiD

@enmaxenvision.net

Do you have a 10/100 Router or a gigabit router? You need to have a gigabit router in order to get speeds past 30mbps. I had the same issues with my cisco router as it only had 10/100. So, I upgraded to a juniper which does have gigabit and i am now getting speeds of 80mbps down and 4.75mbps up.


Xtort

join:2001-07-28
Edmonton, AB


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That's false. 100 Mbit routers or switches are capable of supporting up to 12.5 MB/s of bandwidth, the same that Nitro provides. Most are only going to get 80% of that, so roughly 80 Mbit or 10 MB/s. You don't need a gigabit router for this service.
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Asus P5Q-E / Q9450 @ 3.6 / 4GB OCZ Reaper HPC 8500 / XFX 9800 GX2 / Windows 7 Ultimate x64

stolen

join:2004-04-12
Calgary, AB

Technically, no you don't need a gigabit router. But try getting good speeds even locally to your own computers connected to a dlink or linksys consumer router, and it's much less than 100mbit. (I used to see around 5 or 6 MB/s) .
So if you actually want to see good speeds on nitro out to the internet, and your using a hardware firewall with only 100mbit ports, you're going to need something better.

NinjaAction

join:2007-09-26
Calgary, AB


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reply to Xtort
said by Xtort See Profile :

That's false. 100 Mbit routers or switches are capable of supporting up to 12.5 MB/s of bandwidth, the same that Nitro provides. Most are only going to get 80% of that, so roughly 80 Mbit or 10 MB/s. You don't need a gigabit router for this service.
I disagree, I've had this service for a week now and tested it with several routers. I've tested three 10/100 routers. Two could not get above 30mbit: Asus WL-520GU running dd-wrt,and Dlink DIR-330.
One did full speed: Dlink DGL-4300(My Fav router of all time)

Both Gigabit routers I tested were fine and got full speed: Dlink DGL-4500 and Dlink DIR-825.

Makes no sense I agree, but there it is.


Xtort

join:2001-07-28
Edmonton, AB

reply to stolen
said by stolen See Profile :

Technically, no you don't need a gigabit router. But try getting good speeds even locally to your own computers connected to a dlink or linksys consumer router, and it's much less than 100mbit. (I used to see around 5 or 6 MB/s) .
So if you actually want to see good speeds on nitro out to the internet, and your using a hardware firewall with only 100mbit ports, you're going to need something better.
Interesting. I'm getting around 12 MB/s (LAN traffic) right now out of my WRT54G2 with DD-WRT, which is the full speed of that router. D-Link is known for making rubbish and I can only attribute the low speeds due to network degradation (bad cable, bad signal).

I can't go against what the network standards are and the speeds associated with them.
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Asus P5Q-E / Q9450 @ 3.6 / 4GB OCZ Reaper HPC 8500 / XFX 9800 GX2 / Windows 7 Ultimate x64

stolen

join:2004-04-12
Calgary, AB

If it was just the ethernet standard, I might have to agree with you, but it's not. Lemme post some results of *actual* tests:
»www.tomsguide.com/us/linksys-eth···4-7.html
»www.tomsguide.com/us/linksys-wrt···0-6.html
»www.tomsguide.com/us/smc-barrica···6-6.html
»www.tomsguide.com/us/d,review-68-7.html

If we're talking about getting throughput to 100mbits, none of these would get close.


Xtort

join:2001-07-28
Edmonton, AB

reply to asdasda1
I'm not all of that fan of Tom's reviews and also those reviews are 3 years old. Router quality and features have increased tremendously over that time frame.

Now there are simple things that I do to ensure that I get faster throughput:

1. Uninstall QoS Packet Scheduler
2. Use GPEdit to remove the QoS bandwidth restriction.
3. Disable QoS in the router.
4. Full-duplex network connection, not half-duplex.

Vista also sucks for network speeds which in turn makes people think they need to update their network hardware. I use to get slow speeds on Vista based computers before they were downgraded to XP or upgraded to Windows 7.

I have numerous 10/100 switches in my office that range from supercheap SmartLink to more SoHo grade Linksys and I can always get 10-12 MB/s (Megabytes, not Megabits!). The same goes for the stuff at home. Doesn't matter if the CAT5e cable is 5 feet or 25 feet long.

I'm not the only one out there that can testify to the same thing. Simply put, it's either how the networking hardware is set up, O/S limitations, or Shaw can't provide what you are expecting.
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Asus P5Q-E / Q9450 @ 3.6 / 4GB OCZ Reaper HPC 8500 / XFX 9800 GX2 / Windows 7 Ultimate x64

NinjaAction

join:2007-09-26
Calgary, AB


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said by Xtort See Profile :

I'm not all of that fan of Tom's reviews and also those reviews are 3 years old. Router quality and features have increased tremendously over that time frame.

Now there are simple things that I do to ensure that I get faster throughput:

1. Uninstall QoS Packet Scheduler
2. Use GPEdit to remove the QoS bandwidth restriction.
3. Disable QoS in the router.
4. Full-duplex network connection, not half-duplex.

Vista also sucks for network speeds which in turn makes people think they need to update their network hardware. I use to get slow speeds on Vista based computers before they were downgraded to XP or upgraded to Windows 7.

I have numerous 10/100 switches in my office that range from supercheap SmartLink to more SoHo grade Linksys and I can always get 10-12 MB/s (Megabytes, not Megabits!). The same goes for the stuff at home. Doesn't matter if the CAT5e cable is 5 feet or 25 feet long.

I'm not the only one out there that can testify to the same thing. Simply put, it's either how the networking hardware is set up, O/S limitations, or Shaw can't provide what you are expecting.
We are not talking about switching capability here, all the 10/100 switches will do 12mbyte/sec switching on LAN traffic. We are talking about processing WAN traffic into the LAN side of the router. This is where most 10/100 routers fail. I've already duplicated this in my testing above (And looks like Toms tests are finding the same issue).


CiD

@shawcable.net

reply to asdasda1
That is right... Since there is Routing involved, It depends on the processor of the router also... not just the switching speed.

In real world specs, I have tried a 10/100 Cisco 2651 and a Sonicwall Pro 230 and both were peaking out at 25-30mbps...

Once i replaced my Sonicwall with a Juniper SRX210, I got speeds of 80+mbps.

It might be just the routers produced in those days didn't think we would have WAN speeds past 30mbps... But to guarantee that you will take advantage of nitro speeds, i would recommend getting a gigabit router instead of guessing which 10/100 router can handle it... Also the docsis modem does gigabit... might as well maximize the connectivity right?


CRoZZ

@shawcable.net
reply to asdasda1
Just got the Nitro line in Vancouver...so far so good

speed test at 3:55PM


StarStrike

join:2005-01-21
Vancouver BC
reply to asdasda1
Any of you guys have any news on Warp speed?

I'm currently on Extreme, but am tempted to switch to either Warp or Nitro in the near future. Since Nitro's price has just recently been slashed you think Warp may soon follow?


Me Three



reply to asdasda1
I had this installed today in downtown Vancouver. I was a little surprised that all the tech guy did was swap out the modem with the new docsis 3.0 modem. He admitted he wasn't familiar with the new modems/docsis 3 installation procedures (if there are any), and he just got back from vacation.

When you guys had your's installed did they install anything along with the modem? Did they test the cable line itself? It seems the speeds I am getting are inconsistent (going up and down dramatically and sometimes stopping altogether). My x-treme speeds were always consistent. Also, did anyone notice if this does anything for their pings? Thanks for any info.
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