  kw Premium join:2004-06-12 | reply to Edge1 Re: College Football
If Ohio State loses next week I won't be surprised. PSU is a good team.
Iowa isn't. Neither is Cinci. |
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join:2003-04-07 Orlando, FL | I don't get how a team that is on a BYE can be passed, Makes no sense |
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  jlhugh Premium join:2001-09-07 Wichita Falls, TX clubs: | when tex was on a bye they got passed by bama. just returning the favor this week. |
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1 edit | reply to Edge1 BCS Top 25 Complete Poll Sun Nov 1, 2009
#1 Florida #2 Texas #3 Alabama #4 Iowa #5 Cincinnati #6 TCU #7 Boise St. #8 Oregon #9 LSU #10 Georgia Tech #11 Penn St. #12 USC #13 Pittsburgh #14 Utah #15 Houston #16 Ohio St. #17 Miami (FL) #18 Arizona #19 Oklahoma St. #20 California #21 Wisconsin #22 Notre Dame #23 Virginia Tech #24 Oklahoma #25 South Florida
said by vasta :I don't get how a team that is on a BYE can be passed, Makes no sense Totally irrelevant for Alabama. They, like Texas and Florida, they control their own destiny at this point. I watched the Iowa game from whistle to whistle, they better not "spot'" Ohio St. 3 TD's going into the 4th, they won't be coming back, so I think they will be a one loss team by seasons end. |
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  shaner Premium join:2000-10-04 Calgary, AB
| said by dogma :BCS Top 25 Complete Poll Sun Nov 1, 2009 #1 Florida #2 Texas #3 Alabama #4 Iowa #5 Cincinnati #6 TCU #7 Boise St.#8 Oregon #9 LSU #10 Georgia Tech#11 Penn St. #12 USC #13 Pittsburgh #14 Utah #15 Houston That is quite a diverse top 15. I don't think I've ever seen so many "mid-majors" ranked so high. -- I'm a man, but I can change. If I have to. I guess.
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  kw Premium join:2004-06-12
1 edit | reply to dogma I think Iowa will lose to OSU. OSU has an outstanding defense, it's their offense that isn't "clicking".
I'm not sold on the past two games, Minnesota and NMST aren't good benchmarks.
I think Ohio State or Penn State will win the Big Ten.
I think Alabama is the best SEC team.
Also, I think Boise is getting shafted in the BCS. They're #4 and #5 in the human polls and #8 in the computers, making them #7 overall.
Texas is still unproven as far as I'm concerned...they haven't played anybody, and they probably won't play anybody until bowl game season. |
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join:2003-04-07 Orlando, FL | It makes sense now...
On a side note, I wonder how many losses it'll take to get USC out of the top 25 all together, OK took 4 |
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| said by vasta :It makes sense now... On a side note, I wonder how many losses it'll take to get USC out of the top 25 all together, OK took 4 OU has only lost 3 games, assuming that is who you are talking about. 2 of the 3 teams are in the top 25 also and the first loss occured after bradford got knocked out of the game in the 1st quarter and they still almost won. |
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  dogma Premium join:2002-08-15 Boulder City, NV
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 Go Tide! |
said by kw :I think Alabama is the best SEC team. I coulda' cared less...up to about 10 minutes ago. thought I'd share & bump us |
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  kw Premium join:2004-06-12
| reply to boomer45 said by boomer45 :
OU has only lost 3 games, assuming that is who you are talking about. 2 of the 3 teams are in the top 25 also and the first loss occured after bradford got knocked out of the game in the 1st quarter and they still almost won. Oh okay, so because you ALMOST won a game it makes it okay to lose. I guess that was your mentality against Boise too. A loss is a loss. It doesn't matter that OU has only lost 3 games. They've only won 5. |
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  Van Premium join:2009-07-08 Washington, DC | reply to boomer45 Still a loss |
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  jlhugh Premium join:2001-09-07 Wichita Falls, TX clubs: | reply to shopper yeah photo shopped. i have seen the same pic with zeroU colors. |
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  shaner Premium join:2000-10-04 Calgary, AB
| reply to dogma said by dogma :said by kw :I think Alabama is the best SEC team. I coulda' cared less...up to about 10 minutes ago. thought I'd share & bump us Meh....
OHHHHH...KLA *deep breath* HOOOOMAAA!! -- I'm a man, but I can change. If I have to. I guess.
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  Koil Premium join:2002-09-10 West Columbia, SC clubs: | This is becoming my favorite thread |
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  kw Premium join:2004-06-12
| reply to Edge1 Raven Riley is probably the best product to come out of Ohio. |
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  dogma Premium join:2002-08-15 Boulder City, NV
| reply to Edge1 Proof!
Just to set the record straight, and so that there won't be any further confusion; AD's of the SEC, the ACC, the Big10, and the Big 12 are Punks. Let me rephrase that... c*ck-sucking PUNKS. If you are a fan of any of these coward conferences, or teams in any of these conferences, I will understand it if you refuse to read the story copied in its entirety below (QFT). That's ok, just don't ever say your team has any balls whatsoever.
It's out in the open now.
said by Yahoo!Sports--> »rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/n···ype=lgns : Is it cowardice or collusion?
Boise State athletic director Gene Bleymaier is all but begging for a major opponent any major opponent to play his Broncos, particularly in 2011. He can hardly get his calls returned. Not by the SEC. Not by the Big Ten. Not by anyone.
Bleymaier is making a nearly unheard of offer in college football scheduling Boise will bring its popular, high-profile, top-10 team to any stadium in any town to play any big name team in America in 2011. And they dont have to return the date in Idaho.
So far, no one has bit.
ESPN has even become involved trying to broker a deal that will almost assuredly be nationally televised. Still no luck.
Its the kind of non-conference game that should have schools salivating. Boise delivers an opponent that will challenge your players, exposure that will extend your brand and a home game that will excite your fans.
Its been surprising how many big schools have not been receptive of us coming to their place, Bleymaier said.
This is the conundrum for the upstart program and every non-major conference school trying to battle for national respect.
Boise is 44-4 over the past four seasons, including 4-1 against major conference opponents. Yet that doesnt guarantee the Broncos a slot in a big money BCS bowl due to the level of competition they play in the Western Athletic Conference.
The school acknowledges it needs to play tougher teams. Yet how can they beat quality opponents if quality opponents wont play them?
What Boise is left with is games like Fridays here. They traveled 2,000 miles to beat Louisiana Tech 45-35, a conference game, and improve to 9-0 on the season. For that they practically had to apologize because it wasnt a blowout.
Thats how it always is when we play, coach Chris Petersen said. Its never good enough. Its good enough for us, we won. If youre looking to win by so much, if youre looking for style points, if youre looking to play for the polls, which were not, its not going to be good enough.
Petersen has had it with arguing about whether the Broncos deserve a BCS bid. All he can do is win games. His team beat the one major opponent that would play them this year a 19-8 victory over Oregon in the season opener. That same Oregon team is now 8-1.
Yet he deals with questions about who his team plays in the WAC. Boise won consecutive games this year by a combined score of 99-16 and dropped from No. 4 to No. 7 in the BCS standings. Petersen said he wouldnt be surprised if they dropped again this week. They may again put together a perfect season only to be left out.
The only answer is to play better non-conference opponents. Next season they have games against Oregon State and Virginia Tech. After that though, things may be drying up. In 2011, they cant get one game, let alone two.
So are the big schools scared of playing Boise? Avoiding tough non-conference opponents is the new trend in college football thanks to the BCS. The championship system discourages dangerous, if exciting, out-of-league scheduling as it continues to sap the life out of the regular season.
Or, perhaps, this is how the major conferences are going to deal with the Broncos.
Put it this way, if no one good agrees to play Boise then Boise cant beat anyone any good. And if Boise cant beat anyone any good, then how can they ever argue theyre deserving of a spot in a $17.5 million BCS bowl?
I dont think its collusion, Bleymaier said. I think its athletic directors going to their football coaches and saying, hey, what about playing this school? If coaches had their druthers theyd play sisters of the poor 11 times.
Still, the frustration is obvious.
Some of those schools that are saying let them play our schedule wont play us, Bleymaier said.
That no one will accept Boise States offer is absurd. This isnt a decade ago, when playing the program was no-win situation. If you won, you were supposed to win because no one had heard of them. If you lost (which was likely) it was a disaster.
There cant be any college fans left who dont know how good Petersens team is. A game against Boise would bolster anyones home schedule. It would be a huge game. The television exposure would be invaluable.
Maybe Florida and Texas dont need a game with Boise (they can ride non-conference cupcakes to the title game). A middle of the pack Big Ten or Big 12 team certainly does though. Boises program is more famous than all of them the Broncos are on true national television seven times this season alone.
Yet no one wants the game. Theyll schedule mismatches from the old Division I-AA instead (and charge full ticket price). Bleymaier has to keep his composure as he listens to the critics.
Last year Utah went 13-0 yet didnt have a chance to play for the BCS title. At a Congressional subcommittee hearing University of Nebraska chancellor and BCS figurehead Henry Pearlman was asked what the Utes couldve done differently.
They could have played the schedule Nebraska did, Pearlman said.
While its par for the course for the BCS to have a leader who has no idea how college football works, what can a Boise State do in the face of that kind of ignorance?
Would Boise accept an invitation to join the Big 12?
Yeah, of course, Bleymaier said. If we were in their conference wed play that schedule.
Not only is that not happening they cant get one game against the league. While Bleymaier wont say specifically which schools have turned him down, he will say that the open date remains Sept. 3, 2011. The offer stands, the Broncos will go anywhere.
And, lo and behold, guess which major conference school happens to have an open date? How about Harvey Pearlmans Nebraska, the one-time powerhouse which could use all the big attention grabbing games it can get these days?
Dont hold your breath on that one chicken or collusion, the result is the same.
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  kw Premium join:2004-06-12 | Good read. It's not all that surprising though. There's NO reason for a BCS school to even risk playing/losing to Boise. |
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1 edit | reply to dogma It's still about money. Just like it always has been, and probably will remain. I'll say it again, the players and most of the coaches WANT to play teams like Boise State. Heck, they want to play Florida.
Don't, for one second, believe that those that control the finances for Boise State are any different, they just aren't currently in the same position as the major conferences, and the opportunities are not similar.
Why does Boise State have a blue carpet for a field? Money! Look at us, we're different. Why do they play on Fridays? Money! They are very shrewd in their public relations, but it's been stated before that the major conferences are ruining our chance for providing a playoff system that almost every fan is clamoring to see.
Most people know why there is no playoff system and who is behind the reason for this woeful dilemma. You can call out the AD's, or whatever entity is responsible for generating a team's money, for keeping the little guys down, an issue which has generally been accepted, just don't confuse that with the players in these conference as being cowardly.
I would think that Boise State will be getting a few calls from some better schools with this new policy. Not sure which teams out their might have an open date, but that is a very early game.
Here is a site that shows upcoming schedules for every team out as far as has been provided.
»www.fbschedules.com/ncaa/ncaa-fo···ules.php
Texas already has Rice scheduled, so they are out of the picture. Alabama has Penn State for the following week on Sep. 10th, and I can't see an SEC team agreeing on that kind of schedule to start their season. Got a championship and millions of dollars at stake to consider. Florida is looking to show off in the first week verse the Florida Atlantic football juggernauts, so count them out. Sorry Boise State, but your recent change of heart is a bit late to get a chance at playing a real titan, but I suspect that they already knew this before posturing up and calling teams out. |
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Another undefeated has gone down. Now there is 6 left.
IOWA loses to Northwestern 17-10 |
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