 wifi4milezBig Russ, 1918 to 2008. Rest in Peace
join:2004-08-07
New York, NY | Dont like it? DONT USE VERIZON... I think my subject line above says it all. |
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 Jim GurdPremium
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Plymouth, MI | said by wifi4milez:I think my subject line above says it all. I don't use Verizon. I've been with AT&T since 2003. Originally I was going to go with Verizon until I compared their prices. They were vastly more expensive than their competition and I couldn't justify paying more and not getting more.
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glinc
join:2009-04-07
New York, NY | how are they more expensive?? the prices are the same basically, except that att has rollover and charges you upgrade fee every time your upgrade date is due and get a new phone. |
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duranr
join:2006-10-14
Leonia, NJ | reply to wifi4milez
said by wifi4milez:I think my subject line above says it all. The Problem is that the big 4 seem to collude when it comes to price hikes (TXT MGS?). So even If decline to use Verizon because of this, the other three will eventually follow suit. And It still becomes my problem. |
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wifi4milezBig Russ, 1918 to 2008. Rest in Peace
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New York, NY | said by duranr:said by wifi4milez:I think my subject line above says it all. The Problem is that the big 4 seem to collude when it comes to price hikes (TXT MGS?). So even If decline to use Verizon because of this, the other three will eventually follow suit. And It still becomes my problem. How so? Sprint and Tmobile are considerably less expensive than Verizon and ATT. Then you can also choose from a number of smaller regional providers who offer unlimited calls for around $40 per month. There is absolutely no collusion going on in the wireless industry now; in fact its quite the opposite. I hesitate to call it a price war, however there are many competitive choices on the market today. Verizon is horribly overpriced, pick another provider.
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join:2002-03-03
Longport, NJ
kudos:5 | reply to duranr
said by duranr:The Problem is that the big 4 seem to collude when it comes to price hikes (TXT MGS?). So even If decline to use Verizon because of this, the other three will eventually follow suit. And It still becomes my problem. Not true. Verizon is the most expensive. They get the best coverage rankings and best call quality and the most reliable 3G. And they charge accordingly. If prices go too high people will leave.
AT&T has the iPhone and people pay AT&T extra to use all the data options. But there are other smartphones out there and people can switch if they feel ripped off. If they start switching AT&T will drop their prices.
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 en102Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA | reply to glinc
On T-Mo/AT&T, you can put in unlocked devices, and not have to purchase through VZW as an expensive process.
Also, AT&T, and Sprint, in my case offer good workplace discounts.
I just never liked Verizon Wireless.
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en102Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA | reply to Linklist
Yup. I agree. All of these carriers are still GAINING customers (well, except Sprint currently).
You can use Boost, Cricket, Metro PCS, USCC, etc. if you don't like the big 4.
I do feel that this is a little bit like the medical insurance industry though. Its an expensive industry to get into, however, it is also quite profitable, and almost all of the 'big' carriers charge similar.
I have mentioned this before (and it will come true for Cable/DSL, etc).. in the end, someone has to pay for all the 3G deployments.
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 BF69Premium
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN | reply to wifi4milez
said by wifi4milez:I think my subject line above says it all. and if that's all you can get? |
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wifi4milezBig Russ, 1918 to 2008. Rest in Peace
join:2004-08-07
New York, NY | said by BF69:said by wifi4milez:I think my subject line above says it all. and if that's all you can get? What location are you referring to that Verizon is the only carrier available??
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 Matt3All noise, no signal.Premium
join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC
kudos:12 | reply to glinc
said by glinc:how are they more expensive?? the prices are the same basically, except that att has rollover and charges you upgrade fee every time your upgrade date is due and get a new phone. We switched from Verizon to AT&T and saved about $50 a month for the same 3-line 1400 minute Family Plan. It was mainly the fact that AT&T includes the first additional line in their family plan pricing, Verizon does not, as well as the cheaper data plans, usually 50% the cost of a Verizon data plan. That $50 we saved was even factoring in that we added two iPhone data plans, so if we would have stuck with just a single unlimited data plan like we had with Verizon, we could have saved $65-$80 dollars. |
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Uh...that would be me.
I have Alltel now. Not for long.  |
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said by en102:On T-Mo/AT&T, you can put in unlocked devices, Not quite. One of my coworkers bought an iPhone (on ebay) and put the SIM card from his blackberry in it. A few days later AT&T called him and asked him why he was using an iPhone without authorization.
Sure, it's easy to swap out SIM cards, that doesn't give a blanket license to just put whatever phone you want on whatever plan you want. |
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I have Verizon as my personal phone, and AT&T as a work phone.
Around where I live, Verizon gives seamless coverage. AT&T frequently has dropped calls and garbled audio.
Sure you may save a few bucks, but as they say, you get what you pay for. |
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wifi4milezBig Russ, 1918 to 2008. Rest in Peace
join:2004-08-07
New York, NY | reply to ShellMMG
said by ShellMMG:Uh...that would be me. I have Alltel now. Not for long. Both Sprint and MetroPCS show full coverage in most of your town.
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jfd15
join:2008-01-07
West Sacramento, CA | reply to wifi4milez
Dont worry - I dont and never will use Verizon (or AT+T, for that matter)
instead of the colluders i use Metro PCS and get unlimited everything for $57/mo. - no crappy 2-year contracts, nobody counting my minutes, nobody colluding to keep up prices + buying govt officials + reps, and the funny thing is Metro makes a ton of profit off me because i probably use no more than 150-200 min a month and a little bit of web but its worth it not to have some shitty company counting your minutes...
(and they give you a free first month!!!! ) |
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 Simba7I Void Warranties
join:2003-03-24
Billings, MT | reply to ShellMMG
I have Alltel also, along with my good ol' 6800.
I suck data like a freakin' Mosquito. I operate a mobile computer repair business and I fetch updates and drivers and I can easily eat up 5GB in a WEEK (sometimes in a few days).
I hope AT&T doesn't decide to kill off the CDMA towers just so we *HAVE* to flock to get a new GSM phone and kiss our unlimited plans goodbye.
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And guess what , it should.
These providers need to realize we pay for the service , and we should be allowed to use what ever we want on it.
If I was your friend I'd tell at&t to kiss off , I bought the phone and I pay for the service, nuff said.
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Simba7I Void Warranties
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Billings, MT
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One thing from watching the Bresnan commercials here (with Mr. Bresnan):
"We would be nothing without our customers". Too bad no one else will say that. |
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said by BosstonesOwn:And guess what , it should. These providers need to realize we pay for the service , and we should be allowed to use what ever we want on it. If I was your friend I'd tell at&t to kiss off , I bought the phone and I pay for the service, nuff said. He did, but they told him they'd shut him off or bill him for an iPhone plan.
As for paying for service - not quite. The phones are sold at heavy subsidy and you're paying for the cost of the device essentially on a 2 year installment plan.
So yes, you can swap SIMs in theory, but in practice the carriers still want control over what device you use. |
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