OZO
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| Kudos notifications
Time to time I may suddenly discover that someone gave a kudos to one of my posts. That could make some warm feeling, if you know what I mean  .
I have to say, I'm not looking for kudos specifically and the way how it works now I may easily miss that sign. The same I presume is true with regards to kudos that I give to other posts as well... I know that it's possible to find those signs if you go to Your Posts | votes and check, but frankly, I never go there to find out any of newcomers. And I guess the same is true for majority of members too.
Don't you guys think that some kind of notification could help to conduct those small signs of appreciation here?
I do not know how to implement this feature. One of the possible ways could be using the old "new posts available" feature. Usually it flags only new messages to see. But in this case we may make an exception and if there is a post with new kudos given for the user - it may start that chain of new posts for him... I know it's not the perfect way and will somehow interfere with the common chain of new posts that we used to see (the post with new kudos is not "new"), but anyway...
What do you guys think? Should some kind of a notification be implemented and, if so, please give your thoughts on how.
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Dersgniw
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fourboxers
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Just for reference
»IMs when thumbs-up is given
»Thumbs up... |
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OZO
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| fourboxers  thank you for the links. I didn't give your post thumbs up, because if you use forum the way I do, there is a big probability that you'll not notice it anyway  (we don't have notifications yet), but nevertheless, I appreciate it.
I'd agree that using existing IM channel is a bit over the top. Especially for the folks who perhaps get thumbs up a lot I'm not in that category, but I understand this concern.
As I've said before, I'm not checking "votes" page. But I always check latest posts in threads where I've offered my thoughts. So, if next time I check the latest posts there and someone gave me this sing of appreciation - I think it'd be nice to see that particular post on the top of the chain. Nothing more. It will not shout for my attention (as IM or a system messages do), but, at the same time, it will bring my attention that post. The same should apply in opposite direction of cause (when I give that sign to other posts).
May be there is a better and even less intrusive way to do it, but I do not see it at the moment. I just hope, that some one will offer it here.
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Mats
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You should not need your posts to give you a "warm feeling".
Anyways, it is already possible to find out this info. |
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OZO
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join:2003-01-17 | The thread is not about it.
Thanks anyway. |
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Maccawolf
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I agree with Mats you shouldn't need other people's approval of you to have that warm, fuzzy feeling.
I have a very low self esteem so I check my VOTES often, so I will:
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OZO
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join:2003-01-17 | The thread is not about it.
But thanks anyway. |
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AB
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said by OZO :. . As I've said before, I'm not checking "votes" page. . . May be there is a better and even less intrusive way to do it . . . . There is, OZO. Checking your "votes" page. 
Warm & fuzzy is good sometimes.
I'll *sign* to your request, whether you feel like checking your votes page or not. |
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CtrlAltDel
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I'll sign just to give you a warm feeling. |
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EveryName
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*sign* |
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OZO
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said by CtrlAltDel :I'll sign just to give you a warm feeling. C'mon, guys. The thread is not about it at all. Should I remove the phrase from initial post?
It's rather about the question - do you want the poster, you gave your "thumb up", to ever notice that? I, for example, do. Otherwise, what's the point of giving it at all?
From my experience in most cases, when someone gave me that sign, I DO NOT notice that! That's why I've started the thread. And because I do not want any intrusive way to make such notification - I've proposed the simple way to do it. Most of us click on "new posts available" blue arrow on the right side. What we've got is a subset of posts sent after the last time we checked the thread. After you open that - you'll not get those posts again. Right?
I propose to use that subset feature with very small change. Additionally to the posts you have not seen yet - you may get your post where someone added the "thumbs up" sign. Nothing more and nothing less. It happens once. You'll never see it again, exactly as that subset of "new posts". What's wrong with that?
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bobrk
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Indeed, the idea was slammed. Whatever.
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OZO
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2 edits | said by bobrk :Indeed, the idea was slammed. Whatever. Those two threads (plus this one) prove that there is a problem that should be somehow solved.
The problem was described in most concise way by Nerdtalker in this post:
said by Nerdtalker :The thumbs-up thing is supposed to be an encouragement; it does no good and doesn't serve its purpose if the recipient never even finds out about it. I think the reason why those proposals failed is simple. They both used "a big gun" - IM or a "system message". And I see the point and actually share opinion of those who don't want to get IM or system notifications. It could be a way too annoying...
But because the problem obviously exists - let's find out a simple way that doesn't require a big new development, use already widely used common techniques of casual browsing (no any special actions or checking by users should be required here). And when person will get the notification - it should not be annoying at all. Is it not a simple task? Perhaps. But we have to try to find out a solution.
Again, what's wrong with the way I've mentioned in my previous post? Is it too annoying? Will it disturb you if you'll find your post with the new thumb up one more time among other new posts (at the top of the subset)? Or, may be, you don't check new posts by clicking on the blue arrow at all? What's the problem?
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bobrk
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San Jose, CA | I agree. I think you should get IMed for whatever you want. Anything that happens to your account should be game, and if you don't want it, you can turn it off.
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Mats
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said by OZO :But because the problem obviously exists - Just because a couple of users think it is a problem does not mean it is actually a problem.
There is a way to find out what you are asking which has already been explained to you. You dont think it is an easy enough solution.
You dont like people alluding to the "warm feeling" you posted about when people give you a thumbs for a post of yours. In all honesty that is the only reason you are even asking what you are asking. Now you are trying to make it sound like you are worried about that people wont see that you have given them a thumb for one of their posts.
They have the ability to check for this info. If it worries you so much that they will never know, send them an IM when you thumb their post. |
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OZO
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| said by Mats :There is a way to find out what you are asking which has already been explained to you. Mats can you read? In my initial post I've provided detailed instructions of that:
said by OZO :I know that it's possible to find those signs if you go to Your Posts | votes and check, but frankly, I never go there to find out any of newcomers. And I guess the same is true for majority of members too. Isn't that enough?
said by Mats :You dont like people alluding to the "warm feeling" you posted about when people give you a thumbs for a post of yours. In all honesty that is the only reason you are even asking what you are asking. Now you are trying to make it sound like you are worried about that people wont see that you have given them a thumb for one of their posts. It's yours perception, not mine. And I'm not trying it to sound anything except what I mentioned in all my posts. One more time, my point is - giving "thumbs up" is pointless, if the received doesn't see it.
They have the ability to check for this info.
Yes, they do (see beginning of this post). But not many of us follow your practice - checking "votes" all the time. As I've mentioned in my first post (see above) - I never do. I guess the same is true with regards to majority of the members as well...
If it worries you so much that they will never know, send them an IM when you thumb their post.
I don't want to bother them with my IM. As I've said earlier, I share the point of those who have found it annoying.
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Mats
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| Yes I understand that you know how to find out this info.
I also understand that you never do it this way. Which is why you are asking for this new way to do it. Maybe you should just do it that way though.
I do not understand why you think the majority of members feel the way you do. I would say you are mistaken.
If a person wants to see their thumbs they can. If they dont want to use the way the site provided then maybe they just arent as worried about it as you seem to be.
Anyways, good luck with your request. |
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cacroll
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It's easy enough to check the Kudos display, periodically.
»Re: Kudos notifications
If I want a "warm and furry" feeling, a large cat on ones lap works fine for me. Yes, Maccy, I said "cat".
Or some peach schnapps and vodka.
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