bryank
join:2000-03-23
Plainfield, IL | XBOX 360 using DMZ
So would there be any possible risk if I had my XBOX 360 on DMZ in my router? Could a poetential hacker get through when the XBOX is off, or even on? Or should I just stick with using port forwarding? |
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Jahntassa
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Conway, SC | Nope, none that I can think of. |
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huhh
join:2009-07-31 | reply to bryank
DMZ is just like leaving your front door open & unlocked. So, now does that answer your question? |
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Napsterbater
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Milledgeville, GA | reply to bryank
Its an Xbox I have yet to hear of anyone hacking one from remote, But if port forwarding is working there no point to making it DMZ. |
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Jahntassa
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said by huhh  :DMZ is just like leaving your front door open & unlocked. So, now does that answer your question? Not really. DMZing an XBOX is like leaving a front door open to a room with a safe that has never been known to have been cracked. |
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bryank
join:2000-03-23
Plainfield, IL
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Well my main concern is that I sometimes drop from chat party's and not sure why. Most of the time my gameplay is fine, but was just wondering if DMZ would help. Being the XBOX is not exactly like a computer I didn't know if DMZ is safe or not. Currently, I have port 88 and 3074 port forwarded to my XBOX. |
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ironwalker
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What does the xbox use for chat or is this part of xbox 360 live or chat through a particular game being played? |
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pandora
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You may wish to look for a router or firmware that supports your Xbox 360 via UPnP. My Xbox 360 works fine and has never had port forwarding or DMZ set to it.
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Napsterbater
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Milledgeville, GA | reply to bryank
As long as TCP 3074 UDP 3074 and UDP 88 are forwarded DMZ changes nothing and would not fix you Party disconnection problem. |
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bryank
join:2000-03-23
Plainfield, IL | reply to bryank
I am using DD-WRT firmware and have both port forwards doing both TCP and UDP. |
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Napsterbater
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| Then again it dosn't make a diffrence.
DD-WRT has a UPNP which allows auto port forwarding for the Xbox 360 as well as other things and can allow more then 1 Xbox 360 to have open NAT if it is ever needed.
But if that's not need no point in changing anything now.
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ironwalker
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said by bryank :Well my main concern is that I sometimes drop from chat party's and not sure why. Most of the time my gameplay is fine, but was just wondering if DMZ would help. Being the XBOX is not exactly like a computer I didn't know if DMZ is safe or not. Currently, I have port 88 and 3074 port forwarded to my XBOX. It is a computer and DMZ would work the same.
Like Napsterbater said though, if it works, no need to change it.
According to portfoward.com, Xbox Live 360 requires you to forward the 53,80,88,3074 ports.
The dropping of chat connection may be due to your MTU setting, take it off the auto setting and change the entry of 1500 to 1492 and give this a try. It worked for some.
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Napsterbater
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Milledgeville, GA | Not sure why portforward.com is suggestion ports 53 and 80, Port 53 is DNS and 80 is HTTP they do not need to be forwarded to the xbox. |
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Leathal
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join:2002-02-09
Toronto, ON
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If you want your x360 to be hacked put it on the DMZ, but keep in mind if you get hacked you complete void the warranty as Microsoft doesn't support stupid people! 
They are very harsh when it comes their warranties.
Leathal |
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Napsterbater
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| said by Leathal :If you want your x360 to be hacked put it on the DMZ, but keep in mind if you get hacked you complete void the warranty as Microsoft doesn't support stupid people! They are very harsh when it comes their warranties. Leathal With as many sights the tell you to DMZ and the amount of people that do it I would expect to have heard of a single case of where a 360 was hacked over its network port. Not saying it not possible just think their would have been news by now.
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Leathal
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| said by Napsterbater :said by Leathal :If you want your x360 to be hacked put it on the DMZ, but keep in mind if you get hacked you complete void the warranty as Microsoft doesn't support stupid people! They are very harsh when it comes their warranties. Leathal With as many sights the tell you to DMZ and the amount of people that do it I would expect to have heard of a single case of where a 360 was hacked over its network port. Not saying it not possible just think their would have been news by now. Well I know for sure you can attacked, there is an story posted on DSL Reports this year of a guy who worked for Comcast Teir2 support who was attacked by an X360 gammer while on Xbox Live; he managed to find the kids IP and looked him up at work before calling his father who freaked out and smashed his kids x360 into little bits!  )
It's not like the X360 has a firewall of it's own and we all know from experience if you stick a windows box on the internet (except for ISA server) it will be hacked in a matter of seconds. 
Leathal
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Jahntassa
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| said by Leathal :Well I know for sure you can attacked, there is an story posted on DSL Reports this year of a guy who worked for Comcast Teir2 support who was attacked by an X360 gammer while on Xbox Live; he managed to find the kids IP and looked him up at work before calling his father who freaked out and smashed his kids x360 into little bits! ) It's not like the X360 has a firewall of it's own and we all know from experience if you stick a windows box on the internet (except for ISA server) it will be hacked in a matter of seconds. Leathal Still there was nothing 'hacked' in the XBOX. It wasn't used as part of a Botnet. It wasn't loaded with viruses. It wasn't made into a gateway that allowed access to the rest of the internal network.
If port forwarding isn't getting the job done, try using the DMZ and see if it helps. I've run my 360 DMZ'd since I got it two years ago and yet to have had any problems. |
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said by Leathal :Well I know for sure you can attacked, there is an story posted on DSL Reports this year of a guy who worked for Comcast Teir2 support who was attacked by an X360 gammer while on Xbox Live; he managed to find the kids IP and looked him up at work before calling his father who freaked out and smashed his kids x360 into little bits! ) He was harassing the guy, he didn't attack nor hack him. The guy was subsequently fired from his job for accessing customer information for a non-business use also. |
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Napsterbater
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said by Leathal :said by Napsterbater :said by Leathal :If you want your x360 to be hacked put it on the DMZ, but keep in mind if you get hacked you complete void the warranty as Microsoft doesn't support stupid people! They are very harsh when it comes their warranties. Leathal With as many sights the tell you to DMZ and the amount of people that do it I would expect to have heard of a single case of where a 360 was hacked over its network port. Not saying it not possible just think their would have been news by now. Well I know for sure you can attacked, there is an story posted on DSL Reports this year of a guy who worked for Comcast Teir2 support who was attacked by an X360 gammer while on Xbox Live; he managed to find the kids IP and looked him up at work before calling his father who freaked out and smashed his kids x360 into little bits! ) It's not like the X360 has a firewall of it's own and we all know from experience if you stick a windows box on the internet (except for ISA server) it will be hacked in a matter of seconds. Leathal It wouldn't mater if the 360 had no ports forwarded let alone DMZ, Xbox 360 Games use P2P networking for gaming so anyone can find anyone else IP with little work.
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bryank
join:2000-03-23
Plainfield, IL | reply to bryank
I was more concerned about the XBOX allowing the traffic through to my network to be hacked because it was DMZ'd. With the latest Xbox Live Update, my chats have been solid with no disconnects. |
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