 GuspazGuspazPremium,MVM
join:2001-11-05
Montreal, QC
kudos:16 | Bell starts hijacking DNS. sure, they won't abuse DPI... Just noticed this thread:
»[Internet] DNS Assistant
Bell has begun hijacking DNS and returning their advertisements instead of NXDOMAIN (this breaks spam filters and many other things). It looks like this:
»img39.imageshack.us/img39/5473/d···ound.jpg
This doesn't appear to be done by DPI, but simply on their DNS servers. Nevertheless, this should give you a sneak-peak of where Bell intends to go with DPI! |
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 CanerisErikCanerisPremium,VIP
join:2007-10-03
Toronto, ON
kudos:2 | Great. Now Rogers and Primus aren't the only ones doing it. 
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Erik - Caneris Inc. |
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Yes, I posed the question here:
»DNS Down... UPDATE: FIXED 9am
Also, Bell stated they can market what they want with your data. It's not a privacy invasion at all they stated.
This would fall in line with what they told the CRTC.
Its an added revenue stream based on your typo's, IP, ect, etc... |
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1 edit | reply to Guspaz
This country amazes me. The decline of Internet access, as low as it has already sunk, sinks lower.
It's like dialing a wrong # on your phone and instead of getting a 'sorry, this number is not in service' message you are FORCED to listen to a rogers/bell advertisement.
thank you CRTC. you sold out to the corporations. The people created a equal access network medium and the CRTC sold it out from under us.
dns entry #1 - 4.2.2.3 |
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 R0CKYTSI RockyPremium,VIP
join:2005-05-19
Chatham, ON | reply to Guspaz
Hmm....  |
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 dbusguy
join:2003-03-03
Mississauga, ON | I use open dns, hopefully I won't see any of Bells ads |
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This user must have some spyware or some plugin installed that is doing this, I am on bell sympatico and using bell sympatico dns
servers and when I type in domains that dont exist I do not get taken to any page other than firefox's server not found page. |
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 hmm
@mc.videotron.ca | Whois query for domainnotfound.ca...
Results returned from whois.cira.ca:
Domain name: domainnotfound.ca
Domain status: EXIST
Domain number: 1701435
Approval date: 2006/11/24
Renewal date: 2009/11/24
Updated date: 2009/04/20
Registrar:
Name: Webnames.ca Inc.
Number: 70
Registrant:
Name: Bell Canada
Number: 272279
Description: Bell Canada
Administrative contact:
Name: Van Tu Duong
Job Title: Domain Names and Trade-marks Manager
Postal address: Bell Canada
Law
1000 de La Gauchetiere West, Suite 4100
Montréal QC H3B 5H8 Canada
Phone: 1 514 7869356
Fax: 1 514 8704833
Email: trademarks@bell.ca
Technical contact:
Name: DNS Admin
Job Title: Technical support
Postal address: Bell Canada
160 Elgin Street, Floor 12
Ottawa ON K2P 2C4 Canada
Phone: 1 514 7869356
Fax: 1 514 8704833
Email: dns-admin@bellglobal.com
Name servers:
ns1.webnames.ca 65.39.140.92
ns2.webnames.ca 64.85.60.137
ns3.webnames.ca 69.46.171.49
% WHOIS look-up made at 2009-07-22 21:00:28 (GMT)
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% Use of CIRA's WHOIS service is governed by the Terms of Use in its Legal
% Notice, available at »www.cira.ca/legal-notice/?lang=en
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% (c) 2007 Canadian Internet Registration Authority, (»www.cira.ca/)
Also, it was confirmed by another user in that Bell topic. |
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OpenDNS doesn't do this... |
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 FarchordLost somewhere.
join:2004-08-28
Shawinigan, QC
kudos:1
 ·Cogeco Cable
| Yep it does, just type an invalid domain, you'll get redirected to a search page. |
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I'm feeling lucky fixer for firefox. Blocks openDNS redirects.
»addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/7993 |
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why is it that there's a Bell related fiasco at least once a week?  |
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| said by lyth:why is it that there's a Bell related fiasco at least once a week? Because their CEO is secretly Snidely Whiplash? |
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DavesnothereNo-BHELL-ity DOES have its Advantages
join:2009-06-15
START&Cogeco
kudos:6
2 edits | reply to justsomeguy
said by justsomeguy:I am on bell sympatico and using bell sympatico dns servers and when I type in domains that dont exist I do not get taken to any page other than firefox's server not found page. FireFox is a good first step against a lot of operational garbage.
Not all of it, but enough to make it worthwhile making it your default browser (as I expect you have).
What do you get if you repeat the test with IE ? |
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said by Farchord:Yep it does, just type an invalid domain, you'll get redirected to a search page. Sorry, it's the OpenDNS page and not Bell's... but yeah, it does that too. |
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1 edit | reply to Rand2k1
said by Rand2k1:said by lyth:why is it that there's a Bell related fiasco at least once a week? Because their CEO is secretly Snidely Whiplash? This is a message from your master.
»img29.imageshack.us/img29/6083/cope.jpg
In all seriousness.
They arent hijacking dns... they are just redirecting failed name resolution.
Seems like a good thing to me. |
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i see the black hat is that so we can add horns and other evil stuff as a user event?
from what i get also if my server went down and i had secondary DNS the secondary no longer works as bells hijack will then be the redirection.
THAT'S theft and hacking as far as i know.... |
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 CylonRedPremium,MVM
join:2000-07-06
Bloom County | reply to ancodia
said by ancodia:This country amazes me. The decline of Internet access, as low as it has already sunk, sinks lower. It's like dialing a wrong # on your phone and instead of getting a 'sorry, this number is not in service' message you are FORCED to listen to a rogers/bell advertisement. thank you CRTC. you sold out to the corporations. The people created a equal access network medium and the CRTC sold it out from under us. dns entry #1 - 4.2.2.3 Forced is a bit strong as you are in no way forced to read the page or spend any more than 2 seconds at it much less forced to read any of the ads.
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Brian
"It drops into your stomach like a Abrams's tank.... driven by Rosanne Barr..." A. Bourdain |
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said by ancodia:It's like dialing a wrong # on your phone and instead of getting a 'sorry, this number is not in service' message you are FORCED to listen to a rogers/bell advertisement. You forgot the "helpful" suggestions on what number you actually meant to call. |
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4 edits | reply to CylonRed
said by CylonRed:said by ancodia:This country amazes me. The decline of Internet access, as low as it has already sunk, sinks lower. It's like dialing a wrong # on your phone and instead of getting a 'sorry, this number is not in service' message you are FORCED to listen to a rogers/bell advertisement. thank you CRTC. you sold out to the corporations. The people created a equal access network medium and the CRTC sold it out from under us. dns entry #1 - 4.2.2.3 Forced is a bit strong as you are in no way forced to read the page or spend any more than 2 seconds at it much less forced to read any of the ads. I disagree. Forced is the correct word. You can't 'unsee' a word. You are 'forced' to see the word bell/rogers everytime you mistype something.
And just as it's not Bell/Rogers/Cogeco's place to police the Internet (which, btw they are trying to do via UBB and caps), they have no right to decide what you should see if you do something wrong. Must we be forced to view advertising/logos EVERYWHERE? When I pay my monthly fee for Internet access, where in the fine print does it say that I agree to subject myself to market targeted advertising from my Internet provider? Give them an inch and they'll take a mile ... (sorry, I'm old school -- give them cm and they'll take a km  )
I can drive down the 401 and not see advertising, the same principals should apply to Internet access. You should be permitted to purchase access to the network without being subjected to any sort of advertising from the provider. But for some bizarre reason in Canada, you can't do that (unless you use one of the endangered 3rd party providers). Is that the type of Internet access you want? I sure don't. |
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