baila
join:2008-09-22
| ZyXEL NBG-460N
Hi and sorry for my English! 
This router with the last firmware is reliable?
I want a product very,very stable! 
Tnk'x! |
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drahnier
join:2003-02-11
germany
| Very reliable for my small network (16Mbit DSL, up to three notebooks running Windows 7 RC, one internet radio, one wifi equipped mobile phone running Windows Mobile 6.1) as long as I do not enable N-mode wireless on my notebooks. If I do, wireless drops every few minutes. |
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baila
join:2008-09-22 | reply to baila
Thank's,the problem of this router is the Wireless drop connections? |
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drahnier
join:2003-02-11
germany | N-Mode (that is 300Mb); plain G is rock solid. |
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Dandemon
join:2006-04-05
Australia | reply to drahnier
Drahnier, have you upgraded to the March 2009 firmware yet? There are others who had your problem with the old firmware and got rock-solid performance after upgrading. |
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drahnier
join:2003-02-11
germany
| Yes, I did upgrade. Before that the system was completely useless (that is, I had disconnects within seconds, needed to power-cycle the device to get it running again). I was about to return it when I found a beta version of the new firmware on the net. |
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jinino
join:2003-02-27
Richmond, BC
| drahnier
So you would only stay in G mode and not using N mode?
Do you pair the router up with a G or N client card?
I am looking to upgrade from my old X550 and now seeing your posting I am hesitating again...
Please share your thought. |
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drahnier
join:2003-02-11
germany
| >> So you would only stay in G mode and not using N mode?
Yes, only G mode.
>> Do you pair the router up with a G or N client card?
Currently it's a mixture of G and GN clients, although I have N disabled on those clients (Intel 5300 AGN).
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dslpartner
join:2005-02-18 | reply to baila
Probably not related, but have had problems with Intel drivers lately on Windows. Try to upgrade to the latest drivers for your OS.
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drahnier
join:2003-02-11
germany | During the last two months I have tested with three or four versions of Intel drivers; no luck so far. I'm currently using version 12.4.3.9. As far as I known, this is the latest version released by Intel. |
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Dandemon
join:2006-04-05
Australia
| Well, I've just received my x-550NH (equal to NBG-460N) via a friend in the States. I'll give it a good stress test this weekend. The clients are a mix of Atheros and Ralink 802.11n, all capable of 300 Mbps in theory.
Interesting that they ship this with both the 3 normal screw-in antennas as well as the space-age 3 x 6 dbi 'carousel' antenna. I'll test both options through a few brick walls  |
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jinino
join:2003-02-27
Richmond, BC
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There a many posting in the internet saying 460N has a problem with client cards that come with Intel's ABGN chipset.
Even with the firmware upgrade the problem is still there.
The wireless connection will be on and then suddently disconnect.
If you use P2P software or other heavy ftp sharing software the router does not offer stable connection like its previous model X550.
Dandemon,
Initially I plan to buy this router during my trip to Portland Oregon in the upcoming weekend. But now I change my mind to wait & see. Pls share your experience with your router. There are a lot of users in Taiwan who suffer the connection stability since last fall and so far no solution offered by Zyxel yet. I would like to know if you still encounter similar problem. Thx |
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cablegerman
@superkabel.de
| I used to have trouble when connecting with 2 laptops at the same time, always lost connection, until I updated to V3.60(AMX.4).
Now everything works fine, one laptop is connecting via Broadcom 802.11/g, the other with Atheros 928x 802.11/n at the same time. |
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Dandemon
join:2006-04-05
Australia
2 edits | reply to jinino
I'm going to do a detailed write-up on this, and have already emailed Zyxel in the US about some issues.
Brief observations so far:
1. Its basic routing performance is superb. Web browsing etc is noticeably snappier than on the DIR-855 Dlink (which is not a bad unit by itself).
2. Wireless signal strength is also amazing - that antenna array in the x-550NH package is big, beautiful, and it WORKS. 91% signal strength through two double brick walls.
3. Atheros clients connect reliably and stay connected. I've been getting the odd disconnect with Ralink hardware, namely an EW-7416APn access point (802.11n). How often this happens needs more testing. I'm wondering if the wireless QoS on the router side may be an issue.
4. The firmware is very sparse on features and has a very 'beta' feel to it. There are some silly mistakes, such as being forced to give your upload speed in whole Mbps following the March 09 update.
Does the AMX 4 (ie international) firmware allow changing the wireless protocol? The latest US firmware for the equivalent NBG-460N doesn't give any choice. You just get 802.11n/g/b. |
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Dandemon
join:2006-04-05
Australia
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OK, after more stress testing..
1. Broadcom and Atheros clients connect fine and perform well. This includes an older Broadcom 802.11g card.
2. Ralink clients (and reportedly Intel clients) do NOT connect reliably on current firmware, dropping the link regularly. |
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jinino
join:2003-02-27
Richmond, BC
| Thanks for testing Dandemon.
So the conclusiton is if you pair the router with Athero or Broadcom's client cards, in either N or G mode, wireless connection is fine. No suddent drop.
Avoid Ralink or Intel's client cards for sure then.
Can you test the connection in B mode?
I have a wireless print server that is B standard.
If the connection quality with a B client card is ok, then I decide to pick up this router again.
Another question, which brand offers Broadcom's client card? I know Zyxel probably offer client cards with Athero's chipset, but I am not familiar with Broadcom's products. |
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Bytezboy
join:2001-05-17
New York, NY | reply to baila
Can this router limit the download speed by ethernet port? |
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Dandemon
join:2006-04-05
Australia
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B mode works fine, Jinino. You just can't set that from the router side. Zyxel support (US) tells me that this must have been overlooked, and they are asking HQ (presumably in Taiwan) to restore the option to broadcast B, G, N or combinations of them.
No, you can't limit download speed by Ethernet port.
The firmware is clearly a 'work in progress' on this unit and they are looking at a few other things I've raised. For example the Bandwidth Management setting for VOIP is TCP, while VOIP traffic is nearly all UDP - that kind of thing.
I've also raised the issue of interconnecting with Intel and Ralink but I suspect that might go on the waiting list. 802.11n is supposedly about to get standardised and that might help a lot. |
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Anav
Sarcastic Llama? Naw, Just Acerbic
Premium
join:2001-07-16
Dartmouth, NS
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said by Dandemon  :Well, I've just received my x-550NH (equal to NBG-460N) via a friend in the States. I'll give it a good stress test this weekend. The clients are a mix of Atheros and Ralink 802.11n, all capable of 300 Mbps in theory. Interesting that they ship this with both the 3 normal screw-in antennas as well as the space-age 3 x 6 dbi 'carousel' antenna. I'll test both options through a few brick walls Concur! The X-550N is the same as the 460N, the NH adds the funky antenna system. Seems you got lucky!!
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Dandemon
join:2006-04-05
Australia
| Quick update... there's no doubt this router's raw grunt - processing and wireless - is the best I've ever seen.
If you can live with the beta-like firmware and you don't have Intel or Ralink wireless clients, it's streets ahead of anything in the consumer space and probably some lower-end business routers too. I just wish they'd pay some attention to the firmware, it needs plenty of loving.. |
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