koam
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| What's the worst broadband package out there?
My local ISP promises 256 K / 128 K (down/up). Fortunately my speeds are sometimes better than that (goes up to 1000K if all is well). It's DSL in Vermont.
It costs $65+ / month for the DSL and mandatory POTS. There is no other phone company, and no cable TV. Coming from FIOS and Optonline before that, I know it sucks.
So $65 for 256 K promised. It's basically my only choice here.
How unusual is that as a broadband offering?
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| Damn koam, those guys are Pirates even if the $65 bucks is for DSL service and including POTS. I'd raise hell with the FCC if I were you. You might be able to get a national DSL provider using your existing Phone line. You'd still have to pay the locals for the POTS though.
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| reply to koam
said by koam  :...$65 for 256 K promised. Congrats! Sounds like you already found the worst broadband package out there. |
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Chillin
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Schwenksville, PA | reply to koam
I dunno how that would even qualify as broadband...lol. |
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koam
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so proud. |
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rfhar
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How much of that for the POTS line? I'm thinking most of it. |
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said by koam :My local ISP The OP's DSL providers webpage is about as interesting as the speed offered. »www.shoreham.net/ |
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koam
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rfhar
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clubs: | That is B-B-BAd. I also live near a small town with only one provider but I get 1500/384 cable for $43 a month. And it is very consistent. |
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koam
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2 edits | reply to koam
Test results
»/testhistory/186761/a7e62
as I said, I normally get more than the 256. Another reviewer said that Shorham.net has dialed down the promised speed, probably so that they don't overpromise to more remote customers. Obviously, I'm not happy with the speeds I get. If you were doing one thing at at time on one computer, yes you can watch a youtube video, but it does get bogged down with more than one computer and multitasking.
When there are slowdowns to the 200s, it does get bad. Fortunately we've had a few weeks with fewer such slowdowns.
Obviously my VOIP sucks ass when we're doing anything meaningful on the computers. don't try to watch videos and talk on the phone at the same time....
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Selling that as broadband has to be fraud.
Are they offering those speeds because your too far or is that all they sell?
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said by wth :said by koam :My local ISP The OP's DSL providers webpage is about as interesting as the speed offered. » www.shoreham.net/ Dial up $19.95 per month
DSL $49.95 per month
$199.00 self-installation kit
(free with 1 year service contract)
$50.00 line upgrade fee
256K is their only offering and their price are messed up.
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Just to cut them some slack 1Meg DSL and phone for $65 is not very good but better then satellite. Most of the rest of us live with best-effort service. There is no guarantee of minimum speed.
Be interesting to check modem stats to see what sync rate is. The fact speed varies so much is an indication your ISP is grossly oversold. That is too bad because improving internal network performance and peering is relatively cheap.
If you want try doing a traceroute (tracert in Windows) to Broadband Reports during good times and bad. See if you can determine where bottleneck is.
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koam
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| Those major slowdowns happen once in a while. I complain and they usually fix it back to my more normal speeds. Sometimes they say that their supplier is having problems. They do try to keep me up, but up is usually 900-1100 as you can see from my speed tests.
Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7100]
Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
C:\Users\Ken Danieli>tracert broadbandreports.com
Tracing route to broadbandreports.com [209.123.109.175]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 37 ms 38 ms 39 ms rbpool3.shoreham.net [208.65.161.129]
2 38 ms 39 ms 39 ms max1.shoreham.net [208.65.160.3]
3 39 ms 40 ms 39 ms ppp-64-25-209-65.teljet.com [64.25.209.65]
4 44 ms 43 ms 43 ms gi0-8.na21.b019505-1.alb02.atlas.cogentco.com [3
8.104.52.1]
5 42 ms 43 ms 44 ms gi1-46.3501.ccr01.alb02.atlas.cogentco.com [38.1
12.38.65]
6 46 ms 47 ms 46 ms te8-2.ccr02.bos01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.27.
154]
7 52 ms 52 ms 54 ms te3-1.ccr04.jfk02.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.6.1
0]
8 52 ms 55 ms 52 ms te2-3.ccr02.jfk01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.24.
149]
9 53 ms 53 ms 53 ms te4-3.ccr01.ewr02.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.6.2
25]
10 53 ms 53 ms 52 ms nac.ewr02.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.12.34]
11 53 ms 53 ms 54 ms 0.e1-4.tbr1.oct.nac.net [209.123.10.122]
12 53 ms 53 ms 54 ms vlan804.esd1.oct.nac.net [209.123.10.2]
13 54 ms 53 ms 52 ms www.dslreports.com [209.123.109.175]
Trace complete.
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3 edits | reply to koam
Consider the environment.... even 1mbs is only good for a mile or two from CO.
VT not a lot of desity to have RT's, so you are likely a long way from the CO and 256kb is all they can promise.... consider yourelf lucky you often do better than that.
As to price... well as you say they are the only horse in a one horse town. You ride it or walk. 
When I lived in VT dial up was the only option and unless you were in Burlington, Rurtland, Brattleboro, etc a long distance toll call as well.
You want to live in the boondocks (If not for the winters might still be in Burlington) those are the costs of rural life.
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2 edits | reply to koam
said by koam :My local ISP promises 256 K / 128 K (down/up). Fortunately my speeds are sometimes better than that (goes up to 1000K if all is well). It's DSL in Vermont. ... How unusual is that as a broadband offering? Where I live that is that standard offering, pretty much the same for CATV, Cell Tower and DSL access. My ISP's DSL services cost me ₱1299 ($27) per month, plus around ₱530 ($11) for land line. The basic package is 384 kbps for ₱990 ($20). More bandwidth is available but the price goes up quite a bit from the basic plan. My DSL provider now offers up to 3 mbps ($62), but I'm about 4K from the nearest DSLAM and the best we've been able to work out is 512 kbps / 192 kbps. When I started with this service it was the only game in town. I also lived closer to the CO. That was back in early 2004. The service was a screaming 128 kbps back then and cost ₱2500 ($52) per month. They have slowly upgraded and I can now get 2 mbps for ₱1995 ($41).
The prices have gone down because we now have several competitors, In my area we have CATV, two cellular (except for my exact location, no line of sight to the tower) and another DSL provider. Most package are on a one or two year contract.
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hoyleysox
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Long Beach, CA | reply to koam
They are probably oversubscribed too. |
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koam
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1 edit | reply to tschmidt
what do you makeof the tracert?
another one
Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7100]
Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
C:\Users\Ken Danieli>tracert broadbandreports.com
Tracing route to broadbandreports.com [209.123.109.175]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 41 ms 38 ms 39 ms rbpool3.shoreham.net [208.65.161.129]
2 39 ms 48 ms 42 ms max1.shoreham.net [208.65.160.3]
3 40 ms 42 ms 40 ms ppp-64-25-209-65.teljet.com [64.25.209.65]
4 44 ms 49 ms 44 ms gi0-8.na21.b019505-1.alb02.atlas.cogentco.com [3
8.104.52.1]
5 43 ms 48 ms 43 ms gi1-46.3501.ccr01.alb02.atlas.cogentco.com [38.1
12.38.65]
6 51 ms 48 ms 47 ms te8-2.ccr02.bos01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.27.
154]
7 55 ms 53 ms 54 ms te3-1.ccr04.jfk02.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.6.1
0]
8 53 ms 58 ms 58 ms te2-3.ccr02.jfk01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.24.
149]
9 61 ms 53 ms 53 ms te4-3.ccr01.ewr02.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.6.2
25]
10 55 ms 60 ms 59 ms nac.ewr02.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.12.34]
11 53 ms 55 ms 55 ms 0.e1-4.tbr1.oct.nac.net [209.123.10.122]
12 55 ms 56 ms 53 ms vlan804.esd1.oct.nac.net [209.123.10.2]
13 56 ms 56 ms 54 ms www.dslreports.com [209.123.109.175]
Trace complete. |
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tschmidt
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| said by koam :what do you makeof the tracert? Both look fine. Show gradual increase with hop count and distance. Your latency at first hop is high, mainly due to very low upload speed. By way of comparison I'm in Southern NH have 3000/768 FairPoint plan, running Interleave.
Both show about 15 ms from ISP edge router to BBR.
/tom |
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koam
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How does our regular speed of 900ish down compare to the average broadband (not dialup) ISP?
Does anyone have a frequency distribution of ISP speeds?
I'm pretty sure the 256K low-ball promise is near the 1st percentile (bottom of the barrel) ...but how about the actual performance average (when all is good) of 900 or so?
Would that put us at the 1st percentile, 15th percentile, etc?
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