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bostechie
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 Have you ever approached some one to buy one of your photos?

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Has anyone ever taken an unsolicited photo of say, a building then gone to the company and offered it for sale to them. If so what kind of response did you get and what channels did you go through?

Here is my photo I'd like to offer for sale to Genzyme the BioTech company here in Boston. Do you even think it is worthy of their consideration? Or, am I just overly impressed with myself?

Oh, and how do you come up with a price?

Thanks - Taylor
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Re: Have you ever approached some one to buy one of your photo?

I don't think your overly impressed with yourself, it's a fantastic image. As to offering them the image, contact their public affairs, it won't hurt to ask. I think a sale would depend on what or if they are looking for an image of their facility.
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Exit
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In american I'm sure they would sue you for taking a photo of their building without permission

Maybe ask them if they want a picture taken. Suggest that you will take the picture and then show them. If they like it the can buy it. Obviously you can just use the picture you've already taken


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said by Exit See Profile :

In american I'm sure they would sue you for taking a photo of their building without permission

With all due respect, that's just silly...
While the US no longer really practices democracy, instead corporatism, I don't think I'd go so far as to agree with your biased (US bashing) statement. Furthermore, your statement has nothing to do with my question.

It is a building in open view so the company hasn't any reasonable expectation of privacy.
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I agree with JRSlater See Profile.
Even if that is not the particular image or angle they are looking for, your photo could possibly lead to your doing some work for them. Can't hurt to ask...JMHO.
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reply to bostechie
said by bostechie See Profile :

said by Exit See Profile :

In american I'm sure they would sue you for taking a photo of their building without permission

With all due respect, that's just silly...
While the US no longer really practices democracy, instead corporatism, I don't think I'd go so far as to agree with your biased (US bashing) statement. Furthermore, your statement has nothing to do with my question.

It is a building in open view so the company hasn't any reasonable expectation of privacy.
Except that a building can be copyrighted. You cannot use the image for profit without permission.


jvmorris
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Technically (at least in the US) all building designs are copyrighted; indeed, the same is true for almost anything.

An image of the building, however, is not, especially if taken from a public right-of-way.
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Well, my intent would be to sell it to them if they are interested.


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That, too.


bostechie
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said by jvmorris See Profile :

Technically (at least in the US) all building designs are copyrighted...
An image of the building, however, is not, especially if taken from a public right-of-way.
I've always been under this impression. Thanks.
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Exit
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Re: Have you ever approached some one to buy one of your photos?

I was being a bit sarcastic, but search google for all the people that have been sued/detained/arrested/shot at in your country for taking pictures of buildings.


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Heck, I'd call 'em and ask - it's an excellent photo and would look great in their lobby, meeting rooms etc. I might have allowed a bit more space above the moon, roof and rear wall by expanding the crop from the upper left corner(if possible), but that's a nit.

If they have any legal restrictions, you'd find out pretty quickly. I'd watermark the sample you show them, just in case.

ISO 3200 - I'm impressed with the lack of noise!

Edit - added; here's list of some properties, logos, spaces, venues etc that have restrictions;
»www.imagecatalog.com/copyright_a···mark.php

Note the list of European properties. Such restrictions are not an exclusive characteristic of U.S. property owners and governments.

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reply to bostechie
just go ask them, ask to talk to their advertising/pr department.

they will need to buy your copyright, or perhaps exclusive world reproduction rights, or one-time world reproduction rights, etc etc. just ask for whatever their normal rate is.
maybe $100. for non-exclusive use, more for exclusive world use.

however, you did ask if it is worthy?
may i suggest three variations?
the moon is nice, in blue hour, and the building lights are nice too. but the moon looks oblong, from the time exposure? and has no details from overexposure. try redoing it without the moon but with the blue background. or paste in a detailed moon. exposure for the moon is similar to that for a sunlit object on earth.

or leave the moon out, by redoing or pasting a bit of blue sky over it, since they will be wanting a photo of their building, not of their moon.

try, in camera, or in computer, to get the building verticals vertical, etc, so it doesnt look like it is falling over. in the field you get that by keeping the camera vertical, not tilted up, or by using an expensive shift lens.


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reply to bostechie
like anything, it's in HOW you ask. Use a statement like "man i love the look of your building. it's got great lines" "mind if i photograph it?"

Then when they ask to see it later, show them a small proof and and then offer to sell.

maybe not quite in that manner but it's all in how you ask to begin with, complement them and get on their good side.


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reply to bostechie
instead of guessing, here's the copyright law regarding images of buildings.

»www.copyright.gov/title17/92chap1.html#120

from wikipedia.org

»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:···uildings

Buildings are works subject to copyright in the U.S. according to 17 USC 102(a)(8) since the Architectural Works Copyright Protection Act was passed in 1990. It applies to all buildings that were completed (not begun) after December 1, 1990, or where the plans were published after that date. However, the U.S. federal copyright law explicitly exempts photographs of such copyrighted buildings from the copyright of the building in 17 USC 120(a). Anyone may take photographs of buildings from public places. The photographer holds the exclusive copyright to such an image (the architect or owner of the building has no say whatsoever), and may publish the image in any way.


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said by oblong :

however, you did ask if it is worthy?
may i suggest three variations?
the moon is nice, in blue hour, and the building lights are nice too. but the moon looks oblong, from the time exposure? and has no details from overexposure. try redoing it without the moon but with the blue background. or paste in a detailed moon exposure for the moon is similar to that for a sunlit object on earth.

or leave the moon out, by redoing or pasting a bit of blue sky over it, since they will be wanting a photo of their building, not of their moon.

try, in camera, or in computer, to get the building verticals vertical, etc, so it doesn't look like it is falling over. in the field you get that by keeping the camera vertical, not tilted up, or by using an expensive shift lens.
Thank you Oblong for your criticisms. I fixed the verticals and replaced the moon with a more detailed one as per one of your suggestions. I also corrected some problems with the sky that occurred during my original noise removal process.

Your comments on my edits will be appreciated. - Taylor
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bostechie
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said by grendal See Profile :

instead of guessing, here's the copyright law regarding images of buildings.

»www.copyright.gov/title17/92chap1.html#120

from wikipedia.org

»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:···uildings

Buildings are works subject to copyright in the U.S. according to 17 USC 102(a)(8) since the Architectural Works Copyright Protection Act was passed in 1990. It applies to all buildings that were completed (not begun) after December 1, 1990, or where the plans were published after that date. However, the U.S. federal copyright law explicitly exempts photographs of such copyrighted buildings from the copyright of the building in 17 USC 120(a). Anyone may take photographs of buildings from public places. The photographer holds the exclusive copyright to such an image (the architect or owner of the building has no say whatsoever), and may publish the image in any way.
Thank you grendal, for clearing that up.
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oblong

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looks perfect!

only one question, is there a company name in your photo or on the property, on the building or a sign?, that could be included. they will like that.

for questions about selling photos, start with
"photographers market"

»www.photographersmarket.com/

new edition every november?, usually in stock and readable at barnes and nobles.


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reply to bostechie
If you are going to approach them, go prepared with 3-5 images to show. I think a shot of the entry would make a nice complementary photo to go with this one. They might pick a couple!


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said by grendal See Profile :

instead of guessing, here's the copyright law regarding images of buildings.

»www.copyright.gov/title17/92chap1.html#120

from wikipedia.org

»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:···uildings

Buildings are works subject to copyright in the U.S. according to 17 USC 102(a)(8) since the Architectural Works Copyright Protection Act was passed in 1990. It applies to all buildings that were completed (not begun) after December 1, 1990, or where the plans were published after that date. However, the U.S. federal copyright law explicitly exempts photographs of such copyrighted buildings from the copyright of the building in 17 USC 120(a). Anyone may take photographs of buildings from public places. The photographer holds the exclusive copyright to such an image (the architect or owner of the building has no say whatsoever), and may publish the image in any way.
Thanks for this info grendal See Profile.
Thanks to everyone fo your comments/suggestions.
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