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stevennb
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 Electricial gremlins .....

Hi -

I have a Honda Civic LX (2001).

A few weird things have been happening to it as of late.

One , the right rear passenger power window won't go down.
I checked the fuses and the fuse is ok.

The dome light won't work at all, there's a switch for on and off and that doesn't do anything (I checked the bulb and it's fine).
Normally when you open the doors the light is supposed to come on.
It was until a few days ago. Then it stopped working, worked for a day and now...nothing.

Also , I can lock all/unlock all the doors from the door lock switch on the drivers side door. That all of a sudden crapped out.
The keyless remote doesn't activate the door either.

I suspect the door issue (s) is a actuator (or not) ...what do I know? My car knowledge is limited to...see 4 wheeled metal bodied vehicle and mutter to myself "mmmm car".
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avd706
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see a mechanic, or auto electrical shop.
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pmohr
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reply to stevennb
First thing I'd do is check all of the fuses. Sometimes a circuit will be run through a fuse with a label that doesn't seem at all relevant.

It's a good habit to get into when facing electrical issues, checking every fuse.


stevennb
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I (rather a friend) checked all the fuses and they all were ok.
Tommorow the Honda of love is going to the mechanic.

Thanks for the replies!


Vamp
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You're taking it to a mechanic for those small little issues? They all seem easily traceable and fixable.
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stevennb
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Yes for someone who knows something about cars.
My car knowledge is hanging a tree air freshener.


Maccawolf
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reply to stevennb
You sure it's a Honda and not a VOLKSWAGEN?
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BonezX
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said by Maccawolf See Profile :

You sure it's a Honda and not a VOLKSWAGEN?
his friend wouldn't be able to check the fuses if it was a VW, there would just be a box that says "there are fuses here, but you as an owner should never touch these"

Tiguan ,2 heat shields and a crash plate catalytic converter drive shaft, need to be removed to change the drive light on the shifter. did i mention you can't get at it from inside the vehicle ?

offroadie
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reply to stevennb
Check the wiring in the door jamb. All the issues you are describing relate to the wiring going through the door boot.


Angralitux

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Wich procedure your friend used to check the fuses? in my experience just visual inspection is not enough, you should use a test light (probe light?) to see if current is passing thru.
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offroadie
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You don't want to use a test light in a modern car. Use a voltmeter. I've done automotive electrical for 17 years and the list of issues he's having doesn't sound like it's related to a fuse. It sounds like one of the harnesses or plugs that lead into the door.


Doctor Olds
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A volt meter is overkill for the simple On/Off testing of the fuses, it if the OP has one over the other they both show the same result. Either Voltage or no Voltage is present when tested on both legs.






Angralitux

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reply to offroadie
OP thought the fuses were the problem, I was just pointing a correct procedure to test them in case he just did a visual inspection. It doesn't matter if you have 17 years or 17 minutes doing electrical jobs for the industry, you can't base a diagnosis on the comment of someone who "believes"; and who said he doesn't know a dime about cars.

Why you said a test light is not good? a voltmeter would be overkill as doctor olds said, just to test continuity.
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offroadie
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reply to Doctor Olds
A voltmeter is considered overkill? Do a little more research on modern electrical systems.


Doctor Olds
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Perhaps you should do some research on the basics of fuse testing and the long taught KISS principle. Its not like they are trying to measure TPS voltage or O2 sweep.
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offroadie
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reply to Angralitux
Wow, you guys are unbelievable. I'm just trying to help a guy out. There are circuits in a vehicle you can't apply a ground to. Although unlikely, circuit damage can occur. With a test light you are applying ground to a circuit. It was wrong for me to inform the op of my experiences? Plus you wouldn't be using a voltmeter for an o2 sweep.


Angralitux

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you are ignoring the fact that the probe light is another path to ground in this case, wouldn't be the fuse the same thing on such circuit, on the worst case? I understand that the probe light can damage something because it doesn't have the overcurrent protection that a fuses does, but just testing is not going to do a lot of damage, if just for a second.

Besides, fuses dont normally get blown, so testing them will help to pinpoint the circuit wich has the problem. I'm not trying to discourage you to give advice, but before you post something wich is against someone, try to be polite, and to justify your opinion.
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offroadie
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I wasn't trying to be rude. Sorry if you took it that way. I just didn't give too much info because the op said he didn't know much about cars.
The windows circuits use a reverse polarity rest at ground circuit. If the other windows are working then it's one of two wires that has an open circuit. That harness is in the drivers kick panel. The dome light harness also runs through the drivers kick in that car. The door lock switching and power wires also run through a harness in the drivers kick panel. IIRC they are within two or three white plugs.


Doctor Olds
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said by offroadie See Profile :

Wow, you guys are unbelievable. I'm just trying to help a guy out. There are circuits in a vehicle you can't apply a ground to. Although unlikely, circuit damage can occur. With a test light you are applying ground to a circuit. It was wrong for me to inform the op of my experiences? Plus you wouldn't be using a voltmeter for an o2 sweep.
Please do tell us exactly what side of a simple fuse in a fuse box that cannot have a ground applied to it? Do you understand fuse basics? We are NOT talking about any computer controlled circuit testing, stay focused on the fuse testing. We don't recommend more complex tools when a simple tool will safely and properly do the job.

FYI, there are computer circuit safe test lights available and one would have been recommended if the OP were told to test any computer controlled circuits.

Lisle 24550 Computer Safe Circuit Tester
»www.amazon.com/Lisle-24550-Compu···0097CIO0


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offroadie
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No I guess I know nothing about fuses, you know everything.

I tried to warn the op without tmi, but I guess you just feel you have to somehow prove you have superior knowledge.
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