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jbrantley

join:2009-07-07

Access WRT54GC While Using Westel 6100f

Hello all, I'm not sure if I came to the right place or not, I hope someone will be able to assist me. Here is my issue, I am a Verizon DSL customer using a Westell 6100f as well as a Linksys wrt54gc router. I need to access the router configuration page but when I enter 192.168.1.1 I am presented with the 6100f modem configuration page. I can access info about the router via the 6100f but can not make any changes. This one has me stumped!


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I do know that some routers such as the Netgear routers I see all the time (those white RangeMAX ones) change their IP addresses if it sees that another device with a DHCP server is using that address. If you have an Ethernet cable running from the modem into your Linksys's WAN port, and then a cable running from your PC to an Ethernet port on your Linksys, 192.168.1.1 should bring up the Linksys configuration page.

But if your PC is in fact plugged into the Linksys, open up Command Prompt and type in ipconfig and then press Enter. In the Gateway Address value, note down the address that it displays (if it's not 192.168.1.1), and enter it into your browser. You should hit a Linksys Configuration page.

Now, if you're trying to configure the Westell, you need to make sure the Linksys's setup page isn't the same address as the modem's page.
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Bytebender
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It does sound like the westell and the linksys are using the same IP (192.168.1.1). if this is the case there are two fixes.
1- place the westell in bridge mode - this disables the westell's built in router, turning it into a modem only and allowing your linksys router to handle the ISP connection and run your network.
2 - change the IP address that the Linksys uses to something other than 192.168.1.1 - such as 192.168.2.1 or 10.10.0.1. This will allow the westell to handle the ISP connection and the linksys to run your network, however connected game consoles and the like may have NAT related problems and port forwarding, if any is needed will need to be done in both routers.

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jbrantley

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The 6100f is a modem only not the combo so the linksys is the only router. I've attached the ipconfig results.

edit: I am trying to access the router configuration page, but it is not 192.168.1.1 that leads me to the Westell.


Smith6612
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Where does 10.10.10.10 take you?

jbrantley

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It leads me to my router! Thank you!


Bytebender
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The Westell 6110 and 6110F are "modems" only.
the Westell 6100F is a combo - it has a built in router with a one port 10/100 ethernet switch.
So if yours is indeed the 6100F, then it contains a router. If the Westell's internet light is on green, then the Westell is handling your ISP connection and holding your public IP. If this is the case - your Linksys will show, on it's Status Page, a WAN IP of 192.168.1.xx, (which is actually given out by the Westell.
note - If the Westell were in bridge mode, the internet light would be off and the Linksys should show your public WAN IP.
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jbrantley

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The Westtell 6100F is a modem only device. I have things set now where the modem is located 192.168.1.1 and the router is located 192.168.2.1. On the modem configuration page it states the Westell Proline Model 6100F modem is ready to go. Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to argue but this is just a modem, about the same size as my wrt54gc and no where on the configuration page is there any mention of wireless settings. Also on the bottom of the modem it also states that it is an ADSL2 modem, again no mention of a router anywhere. Just for the heck of it I called Verizon and was informed the 6100F is indeed ONLY a modem!!


Bytebender
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I am sorry, you have been misinformed, the Westell 2200, 6100 -A through G, 327w., and 7500 all contain routers. Only the older Wirespeeds, 2100, and 6110-A through G do not.
All Westell 6100F series "modems" do contain a DSL "modem" and a NAT home networking router, (but do not have a wireless access point). This router can be disabled by bridging the unit, but by default it is enabled. When the unit is put into bridge mode, then it is only a modem.
When you access the 6100F and look at the left panel on the main page, down below the blue globe, you should find there your public IP address, (72.xxx.xxx.xxx or 141.xxx.xxx.xxx or similar), and if you look at the center panel on the main page you should see your Linksys listed there with an IP address of 192.168.1.xx, which will match the WAN IP address found on the status page of the Linksys GUI.
If the 6100F were a modem only, or were bridged so it acts like a modem only, there would be no IP addresses in the Westell GUI at all, and your public IP address would appear as the WAN IP on the status page of your Linksys.
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mtechtalk

join:2009-07-06
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The 6100F is indeed a router, though I would imagine for the routing functions to work you would have to plug it into a switch. If the point is to go wireless then you have a challenge ahead of yourself.

I too had a Linksys WRT54G Router and it simply WOULD NOT WORK with the 6100F. I changed every setting I could think of, one at a time, all at once, separate IP's etc. Nothing worked until I changed the firmware out to DD-WRT. Then it worked, but not reliably.

I was told by the Verizon technician that hooked me up that the Linksys routers and the Westell 6100F don't play well with each other.

My advice is to spend $40 at WalMart, Target, or Best Buy and pick up a Netgear Wireless G router. That combo worked immediately (with the modem in bridged mode) for me with no headaches.

Even if you do get the Linksys to work with the DD-WRT firmware change, it will often drop out under load (the light in the front will turn white and then go dark) and you'll have to manually reset it all the time.

Buy the Netgear.

jbrantley

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My wrt54gc router works fine, great with the 6100F and always has I just needed change the password for my wireless network. There are no wireless settings anywhere on the Proline DSL Modem configuration pages. This is a modem NOT a modem/wireless router combo!


Bytebender
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Ahh - you are correct, it does not contain a wireless access point, it is not a modem/wireless router combo.
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jbrantley

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I suppose I should have clarified from the beginning that I was stating it did not have wireless capabilities which is why I use my wrt54gc.
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