good one
@videotron.ca
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Re: Bell Landline to go up by $2, will this apply to TSI as well
said by SuperCM  :Guess this means my savings over Bell Canada just increased by $2. +1 |
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mazhurg
Premium
join:2004-05-02
Portage La Prairie, MB
 ·TekSavvy Solutions..
·MTS
| reply to emoci
Thanks Bell!
You are saving me, starting in Aug a good 7.00 a month (Cost of call display - 2.00 increase) once call display is disabled.
CD is overrated anyway!
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"Vision without funds....
is a hallucination" |
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SuperCM
join:2005-03-08 | reply to emoci
Raising it again? Didn't they already raise it this time last year? That's what prompted me to switch my Home Phone service to TekSavvy. Guess this means my savings over Bell Canada just increased by $2. |
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nigrunze
join:2009-02-14
Cote Saint-Luc, QC
| reply to Terri Bell
Re: Hit back immdiately - boycott bell long-distance
said by Terri Bell :
One simple solution that took 0 time and no effort to implement was boycott. I stopped using bell long-distance and use a 1010 voip service instead. The call quality is just as good as bell and bell now collects only a tiny, tiny fraction of what they would have form me before in charges Maybe TSI can send out a mass email to their internet subscribers suggesting that Bell Home Phone users switch to TekSavvy's long distance services or switch completely to their home phone services. |
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An_Onymous
@teksavvy.com
| reply to Terri Belle
Re: FTW???
Seems like Bell is dying to switch everyone and every of their "services" to long term lock in contracts and string all kinds of fees and penalty clauses.
They must be using Monty Python's Argument script as their operating procedure and scripts for their customer service. »www.davidpbrown.co.uk/jokes/mont···ent.html |
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Terri Bell
@bell.ca
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Hit back immdiately - boycott bell long-distance
Over the last 2-3 years, I have gone from a decades-long satisfied customer of multiple bell services who thought highly of them to one that hopes for its earliest possible demise. My attitude changed for usual reasons: numerous instances where this once venerable telecom outfit has demonstrated newly found arrogance, ineptness, and incompetence to me, my family and friends.
On top of that, my bills have steadily risen while service and performance has declined. I have watched charges for line items like "last call return" go from just merely outrageous to extortionate. And I have watched bell adopt the process of price-obfuscation at every twist and turn (buck your fundles, bell!). And I have been outright lied to by bell reps about certain charges.
I am in the process of re-assessing all services and will be cutting bell out of the picture in every way possible (I have been watching this forum for some time and Teksavvy is at the top of my list for some services).
But I felt the need to deprive bell sooner of any revenue that I could.
One simple solution that took 0 time and no effort to implement was boycott. I stopped using bell long-distance and use a 1010 voip service instead. The call quality is just as good as bell and bell now collects only a tiny, tiny fraction of what they would have form me before in charges
If every person using bell long-distance were to do this immediately, I'm sure bell would experience a sufficient drop in revenue to tell them that the customer is still in charge, no matter what bell's delusions of grandeur. |
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Terri Belle
@bell.ca
| reply to An_Onymous
FTW???
said by An_Onymous :
Bell thinks their services are not regulated as soon as customers subscribe to their expensive add-on services such as caller ID, call waiting call answer etc.
I left my lawyer in my other pants, but I read this the same way.
Someone help me out here: is bell really saying "if you do more business with us, then we promise to f*** you" or is there ma nuance that I missed?
What am I missing? I know bell is brain-damaged, but are they suicidal, too? |
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Goggles9
join:2003-01-26
North York, ON | reply to emoci
Re: Bell Landline to go up by $2, will this apply to TSI as well
I will most likley go TSI with my home phone, I just wish TSI were in the wireless business. |
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Jaser
@teksavvy.com
| reply to emoci
My guess is that TSI would not be affected under this as they're using the regulated/tariffed rates, so Bell would have to argue to the CRTC for any increase, and that's not what happened here.
Obviously, Bell wants to get as many people off of these regulated/tariffed rates and onto their unregulated ToS so they can do whatever they want in an organized manner against millions of relatively unorganized people.
This type of action on their part is basically a creative way to get all those grandmas and grandpas that just faithfully pay their Bell bill every month onto these higher-price line cards for the same services. Actually, it's less service, since you won't be able to complain to the CRTC if you're not getting the service you received before.
I'll bet that this type of creativity will _not_ be well liked by the CRTC and Bell will get its wrist slapped, but the minions in the creative department will get an A+ from upper management for effort. At least that's what happened when Telus implemented its bunk network charge.
Telecom is supposed to be boring, like banking. If things get exciting, there's a problem. |
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noyb
join:2004-04-20
canada
| reply to emoci
and any applicable administrative charges ????
well if any company chargers you this fee you can sue them it is illegal to check with revenue canada it is illegal to charge an Adminstrative charge for making out a bill you dont have to pay it |
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bjlockie
join:2007-12-16
Ottawa | reply to emoci
Will this apply to dry loop rates? |
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sbrook
Premium,Mod
join:2001-12-14
H0H 0H0 | reply to tor
Bell just completed ALL of the purchase of Virgin. |
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ohmer
join:2003-08-06
Quebec, QC
·TekSavvy Solutions..
 ·Primus Talkbroadband
·Mega Qubec
| reply to tor
No they now own 100%. They already owned 51%. |
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tor
@teksavvy.com
| reply to petah
Bell owns half of Virgin Mobile. I am wondering if they are going to screw that up too!
»www.cbc.ca/technology/story/2009···ile.html |
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petah
join:2002-07-27
Canada
| reply to emoci
This is one of the reasons I moved the land line service to Teksavvy. First reason was the LD "access fee" Bell charged us since 2002 that my parents never bothered to check on the bill.
We have never used Bell's LD. My mom uses a calling card and I have the $4/month LD number that I dial. We were never notified of such fee (apparently since 2000) and I have never bothered to check my parents' Bell bill until about 3 weeks ago.
We were paying $42/month after taxes and switching to Teksavvy resulted in $14/month savings ($28/month after taxes)
Bell tried to talk my mom into signing a 2 year contract and give us some discounts on the phone service, I did some quick math and told Bell to take a hike. I am not about to sign another 2 year contract if I can still be on monthly and pay less.
Teksavvy 2 : Bell 0 in my house.
Next will be TV, when is Teksavvy going to offer TV service?  |
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THE Fatman
@rogers.com | reply to tor
'tor
Heck maybe I'll end up going with Rogers, I don't know right now.'
From frying pan to fire........trust me! |
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VenusFlytrap
join:2007-11-18
Canada | reply to nigrunze
1) I hate Bell
2) The CRTC is a disgraceful rubber-stamping agency, gleefully rubber-stamping approvals for the greedy Bell and Rogers. |
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nigrunze
join:2009-02-14
Cote Saint-Luc, QC
| reply to Martian3
I'm surprised none of us (myself included) saw this coming. It's here a year after Bell increased the price of "Call Waiting Unblocking" from $5.50 to $6.95 (wtf!).
If TekSavvy's phone service isn't affected by the price raise, they may just get some new (phone) customers. |
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Martian3
join:2004-10-17
Lindsay, ON
·TekSavvy Solutions..
| reply to emoci
Bell is attempting to migrate as many customers as possible into their home phone packages, which they're interpreting as unregulated services. The price increase only applies to residential access lines -- if those go up $2 but the home phone packages stay at the same price, the home phone packages become much more attractive in terms of pricing.
I'm interpreting the change to the UToS in mostly the same vein. If I sign up for a home phone package from Bell and later decide that I want to go back to a (regulated) access line, I'll be hit with a $35 downgrade fee. While the UToC change doesn't specifically mention home phone packages and therefore could apply to anyone with extra features on their line, I suspect that's who it's targeting.
One change encourages migration, the other discourages going back.
Notable is that Bell charges substantially more than the regulated price for their home phone lite package (which comes with no features), but applies bundle discounts to it and all home phone packages. The whole thing seems like a way to get more customers into Bell bundles by making a basic home phone line too expensive to have without other services. None of it applies to wholesalers in any way that I'm aware of.
I too am curious as to whether this price increase is going to hit TSI lines as well. I'm assuming I'll receive an email before such a thing occurs.
slow joe - I'm guessing you have something other than an access line, and so the $2 price hike doesn't apply to you. If you have a home phone package then this won't affect you.
Don't ask me for my sources, I'm not telling.  |
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BurnHavoc
join:2003-07-14
Kitchener, ON | reply to emoci
Gah. I already have enough bills to pay x_X |
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