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Flash...your days MAY be numbered...

Picked this up from Gruber...

This shows a lot of promise--the ability to show video in an HTML 5-enabled browser (Firefox 3.5 and Safari 4 so far) without Flash...and it kinda works on the iPhone!

»camendesign.com/code/video_for_everybody
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Re: Flash...your days MAY be numbered...

I hope so. I have not been happy with Flash performance on Mac.

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Re: Flash...your days MAY be numbered...

said by ArchAngel21x See Profile :

I hope so. I have not been happy with Flash performance on Mac.
I haven't been happy about Flash performance on PC, especially in browsers such as Firefox.

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Re: Flash...your days MAY be numbered...

said by Phil See Profile :

said by ArchAngel21x See Profile :

I hope so. I have not been happy with Flash performance on Mac.
I haven't been happy about Flash performance on PC, especially in browsers such as Firefox.
It sucks on PCs, but I have to say it's been worse on any Mac I've used (or owned) in comparison.
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I'd be more impressed if they showed actual video.

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said by Jahntassa See Profile :

I'd be more impressed if they showed actual video.
Well there IS video on the page...it doesn't have to be an entire feature film or anything to prove the concept.
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said by BellBoy See Profile :

said by Jahntassa See Profile :

I'd be more impressed if they showed actual video.
Well there IS video on the page...it doesn't have to be an entire feature film or anything to prove the concept.
No, but it could be some 'live action' video. Like, youtube video, not 'Flash Animation' type video.

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doesnt work on my iPhone

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said by TearAbite See Profile :

doesnt work on my iPhone
This works for me on my iphone.

»camendesign.com/code/video_for_e···_yt.html
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Re: Flash...your days MAY be numbered...

said by Rob See Profile :

said by TearAbite See Profile :

doesnt work on my iPhone
This works for me on my iphone.

»camendesign.com/code/video_for_e···_yt.html
Ohh, very cool.

That worked on my iPhone.
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said by TearAbite See Profile :

doesnt work on my iPhone
Not working for my 3GS either.

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I doubt Flash will go away anytime soon just because people turn to it by default, even to do things you would never need Flash to do. It shows laziness on the part of developers, and apathy toward providing the best user experience.
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I know it's early and beta or whatever, but that wasn't much better than flash. It ran choppy and pegged this Mac Mini's Core 2 Duo at 100% while playing the video.

I guess it's a start though.
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It's still going to be a PITA sort of. Firefox/Mozilla won't support H.264 due to licensing issues and Apple won't support OGG in Safari. So that means you have to encode at least 2 versions of your video all the time.

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I hope so.. flash sucks.. sometimes flash can be a memory hog as well as slow to download on a not so fast connection... Some sites go so far to design the whole thing as flash :-/

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This has been around FOREVER. I recall seeing it sometime in the mid-1990's using Netscape 3 or so on MacOS 7.something.
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Flash is like Realmedia

bloatware that needs to
be taken out and shot.

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said by BellBoy See Profile :

Picked this up from Gruber...

This shows a lot of promise--the ability to show video in an HTML 5-enabled browser (Firefox 3.5 and Safari 4 so far) without Flash...and it kinda works on the iPhone!

»camendesign.com/code/video_for_everybody
something is going to have to do better than "kinda works" before it takes over flash.

BF69

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on it's "youtube test" page it says "This is a version of “Video For Everybody” using a YouTube video for the Flash fallback, rather than a locally hosted version. This should provide compatibility for devices that do not have Flash 9 + H.264 playback capabilities. (e.g. Wii, PS3, PSP) "

I can attest this does NOT work on the PSP as I knew it wouldn't. Make a verison that does then talk.

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While people may hate Flash, it's the authoring tools, server software, and DRM capabilities that makes Flash attractive.

This will NEVER replace Flash because Ogg Vorbis and Theora have no capability for DRM and if a distributor were to write something, it's possible they'd have to re-release it under the myriad of Ogg Vorbis licenses in use, although it seems like the Ogg Vorbis folks would be unlikely to enforce it. That also means that you'd have to install a specific Ogg Vorbis player for each distributor, which would break the Firefox integration anyway.
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