winsyrstrife
River City Bounce
Premium
join:2002-04-30
Brooklyn, NY
clubs:
| reply to sprintster
Re: Earthlink usenet bandwidth limit reinstated?
Anyone tried tying geographical lines to the Usenet cap limitations? From working in the industry for several years, I can say that we always found a test market for these kinds of things. Anyone in NYC, besides myself, that can chime into this thread? I have their EL experience account, does that include Usenet? Haven't visited EL's Usenet in eons...
So far, we have San Jose and Portland? San Jose seems like a risky test market. 
I get the feeling that EL's Usenet may be on it's way out, or possibly dumping all binary groups. Usually the only way to fight this is with massive user resistance (complaints). I wonder, how many serious Usenet members ONLY use Earthlink as their source, and care enough to complain?, or even hit the cap? I'd bet the pot that Earthlink is counting on "very little".
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Doctor Olds
I Need A Remedy For What's Ailing Me.
Premium,VIP
join:2001-04-19
1970 442 W30
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| The Earthlink Experience is not supposed to include access to Usenet.
Archive of the old link to TEE
»web.archive.org/web/200612190514···as/eexp/
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antdude
A Ninja Ant
Premium,VIP
join:2001-03-25
| Really? When I got Experience last summer, the customer support said it has usenet/newsgroup access. Was this recently changed?
As for me getting those emails and errors, I haven't gotten any yet. I know I had downloaded about 10 GB on a weekend a couple weeks ago and in the past. |
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Doctor Olds
I Need A Remedy For What's Ailing Me.
Premium,VIP
join:2001-04-19
1970 442 W30
clubs:
| Some users report access via NNTP on EE does work, but many had it for a short while and later posted it had quit working with permission errors. They were told by Support that Usenet would not be included for the under $10.00 price of EE and that they had to purchase/upgrade to full Earthlink Dial-up in order to get it back as EE Accounts were now blocked with no further NNTP access.
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antdude
A Ninja Ant
Premium,VIP
join:2001-03-25
1 edit | said by Doctor Olds  :Some users report access via NNTP on EE does work, but many had it for a short while and later posted it had quit working with permission errors. They were told by Support that Usenet would not be included for the under $10.00 price of EE and that they had to purchase/upgrade to full Earthlink Dial-up in order to get it back as EE Accounts were now blocked with no further NNTP access. Wow, I used to have the full dial-up package ($21.95 per month), and then downgraded to Experience to save money and still have the same features and access. As of today, I can still post and read on Giganews. |
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Doctor Olds
I Need A Remedy For What's Ailing Me.
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join:2001-04-19
1970 442 W30
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marv6
join:2007-11-20
New Orleans, LA
| I am not sure I understand. A long time ago I subscribed to Giganews because of the short retention time in the Earthlink news servers. All of a sudden today my download speeds using Giganews dropped by two thirds. I checked with Giganews and they say that everything is fine on their end and they checked my connection and said it was fine, but, to check with Earthlink to see what their policy was. Can they slow my downloads even though I am using Giganews. Using Speakeasy my download is still over 3 mb, but connecting to Giganews thru Earthlink my download is now about one third of what it has been. Is Earthlink doing something to slow it down? Thanks |
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Doctor Olds
I Need A Remedy For What's Ailing Me.
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join:2001-04-19
1970 442 W30
clubs:
| If you have a personal GigaNews Account and your speeds have dropped and the login credentials are not related to any of your "up to" 8 existing Earthlink Email Address/Password credentials then no, it is nothing that EL is doing.
Now if you are logged in to GigaNews using any one of your "up to" eight Earthlink Email Address/Password credentials then there is a limit as discussed above in this topic.
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marv6
join:2007-11-20
New Orleans, LA
| Thank you Doctor Olds. I am not using my earthlink logins and passwords. I have my own for Giganews. My software NewsReactor and News File grabber allow me to also use my earthlink news servers and I imagine that the limits would apply to them, but, I primarily use Giganews. Today, using Giganews it is back up to speed. Maybe Giganews had a problem yesterday?
Thanks for the clarification. Using live chat with Earthlink, I was told pretty much the same as you suggested, once, live support realized that I had my own account with Giganews. At first they thought that I was using the Earthlink news servers. |
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mcf57
join:2006-08-17
Cumming, GA
4 edits | reply to Doctor Olds
said by Doctor Olds :Now if you are logged in to GigaNews using any one of your "up to" eight Earthlink Email Address/Password credentials then there is a limit as discussed above in this topic. I am using EL usenet servers. Are you saying that you can use Giganews service with EL email address/password credentials? I had heard that Earthlink usenet was now being supplied by Supernews (as of 2008) and then Giganews bought out Supernews.
I am only getting retention of about 140 days (on news.east.earthlink.net) so if there is someway I can use Giganews with EL e-mail, I could then maybe get the 400+ days of retention. Is this possible? If so, what are the Giganews server addresses to use with EL credentials?
I can live with a cap limit if there is one when accessing Giganews servers since I don't really download a lot, but I was more interested in the higher retention. |
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Doctor Olds
I Need A Remedy For What's Ailing Me.
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join:2001-04-19
1970 442 W30
clubs:
| said by mcf57 :said by Doctor Olds :Now if you are logged in to GigaNews using any one of your "up to" eight Earthlink Email Address/Password credentials then there is a limit as discussed above in this topic. I am using EL usenet servers. Are you saying that you can use Giganews service with EL email address/password credentials? I had heard that Earthlink usenet was now being supplied by Supernews (as of 2008) and then Giganews bought out Supernews. When you pull a single sentence out of a paragraph and use it out of context you get confused.
As an EL customer you can use the one IP address they allow us to connect to. Anything else fails. Since Supernews is Giganews the terms were used interchangeably, but only one IP that resolves to Supernews who is owned by Giganews works with EL credentials with IP 216.168.3.70 aka earthlink.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net
news.east.earthlink.net
Official name: earthlink.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net
IP address: 216.168.3.70
Aliases: news.east.earthlink.net
nntp.earthlink.net
nntp.earthlink.net
Official name: earthlink.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net
IP address: 216.168.3.70
Aliases: nntp.earthlink.net
news.west.earthlink.net
Official name: earthlink.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net
IP address: 216.168.3.70
Aliases: news.west.earthlink.net
nntp.earthlink.net
demonews.mindspring.com
Official name: earthlink.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net
IP address: 216.168.3.70
Aliases: demonews.mindspring.com
earthlink.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net
Official name: earthlink.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net
IP address: 216.168.3.70
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mcf57
join:2006-08-17
Cumming, GA | reply to sprintster
OK, so even though Giganews now owns Supernews, I guess I still can't get the retention that Giganews offers and will just have to live with the 140 days I get now. Oh well, better than nothing. |
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Kirby4321
join:2009-11-03
Westwood, MA
| reply to sprintster
I have been averaging about 105Gb per month per account since Earthlink reinstated its download limit a couple of months ago. Today, my first account went belly up after only three days and 49Gb downloaded with the notice that I've exceeded my monthly bandwidth. Did Earthlink cut the download limit again to 50Gb?
I'll log back in if my second account cuts out on me. |
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Kirby4321
join:2009-11-03
Westwood, MA
| reply to sprintster
I just had my second account go belly up. I got 61 gb out of it before the "exceeded bandwidth" message popped up. So Earthlink has dropped the newsgroup download limit to about 50gb. It usually waits until you finish downloading, hence the extra GBs. But I think it has a hard cut off time at around noon. And the reset time is about 1:50 am on the last day of the month! |
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Eddie
@verizon.net
| reply to sprintster
I haven't been capped until now but I just got an error because news.east.earthlink.net, news.west.earthlink.net, etc all dropped off the net!?
Gotta love how in the quoted letter Earthlink is giving us the "opportunity to upgrade" yet the quoted prices are a whopping 0% discount from a regular Giganews account. You'd think they'd at least be knocking off $5 or $10 with some kind of bulk rate deal. As others have said the nntp was the main reason I've kept multiple Earthlink accounts alive, DSL and dialup. Back when it was in-house capped I was cycling thru user names on a weekly basis. |
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dbarber
join:2000-07-25
West Chester, PA
| I'm not sure what is going on, but I CAN connect to the news servers by the IP address given by Doctor Olds . Any attempt to connect by server name times out. Attempting to ping by server name gives the following result:
Unknown host news.east.earthlink.net.
MAYBE they'll get it fixed sometime!
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Doctor Olds
I Need A Remedy For What's Ailing Me.
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join:2001-04-19
1970 442 W30
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| reply to Eddie
This is what I see running the names.
-> news.east.earthlink.net.
alias = nntp.earthlink.net.
-> nntp.earthlink.net.
alias = earthlink.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net.
-> news.west.earthlink.net.
alias = nntp.earthlink.net.
-> demonews.mindspring.com.
alias = earthlink.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net.
-> earthlink.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net.
alias = earthlink.us.supernews.com.
All of those point to earthlink.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net and finally to earthlink.us.supernews.com both at IP 216.168.3.70
Right now it looks like none of the names are resolving, but the IP 216.168.3.70 does work, have you tried that?
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dbarber
join:2000-07-25
West Chester, PA
| Normally, I use GTE's DNS servers (4.2.2.1 , 4.2.2.2) which will NOT resolve Earthlink's news servers. On one of my machines I run magicJack, and I use different DNS servers (67.90.152.122 , 67.107.1.186) which DO resolve the Earthlink news servers.
Go figure!
In the mean time, I just stay connected by IP address.
Donn
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Eddie
@verizon.net
| reply to Doctor Olds
Doctor Olds, it is working by IP. Very strange. I have a feeling I use the 4.2.2.1 , 4.2.2.2 DNS servers dbarber mentioned but I've never had a problem until now. Well, other than back in the old days when east would crap out and I'd switch to west or vice versa. I can't check easily at the moment but those addresses look very familiar. I'll keep pinging east/west/nntp and see if they come back. |
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sprintster
join:2004-11-30
San Jose, CA | thanks.
i found nothing of the outage on earthlink's support page, but thanks to you kind folk, i was able to resolve the news server via ip. |
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