nycnetwork
join:2000-11-12
Brooklyn, NY
| reply to FHBroadband
Re: Road Runner - Docsis 3 news?
RR will skip Docsis 2.0 so don't wait for that. Docsis 3.0 is supposed to be implemented by the end of the year. I had outage last night, hoping to see any upgrade, but nothing has changed.
If I had an option to go with Verizon FIOS, I wouldnt miss a beat. 25/25 package is too hard to refuse, imho, tbh. |
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FHBroadband
join:2009-04-15
1 edit | reply to Pizz
Any plans for Docsis 2.0 to NYC? Switching to Verizon is just too much a hassle for me in my life right now.
My cablemodem is Docsis 2.0 capable. Would be nice if they offered Docsis 2.0 service, I don't need Docsis 3.0 speeds. Docsis 2.0 would be plenty if it was offered. |
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Anonymous_
Anonymous
Premium
join:2004-06-21
127.0.0.1
clubs: | reply to nycnetwork
socal has 15/2 on it's D2 areas |
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nycnetwork
join:2000-11-12
Brooklyn, NY | reply to Pizz
NYC D1.1 turbo is 20/1 with powerboost so those few that are not on the overcrowded nodes get 30+mbps down and 1up with the powerboost. |
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Pizz
Hi
join:2000-10-27
Astoria, NY
 ·Verizon Online DSL
 ·RoadRunner Cable
| reply to Anonymous_
said by Anonymous_  :said by Pizz : Docsis 1.1 will be milked for quite awhile. yes but some areas have Docsis 2.0 (mostley old adelphia areas that had it all ready installed) The entire footprint of NYC is docsis 1.1 - only ex adelphia (as you said) and come comcast areas which upgraded, are only on 2.0 - thats why turbo in a ex adelphia area is usually above 1mbps on the upload, where docsis 1.1 is existing, its 768kbps.
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Pure
Unacceptable Behaviour
join:2001-05-31
Dallas, TX | reply to Mero
The areas I can check in Texas - North Texas, Rio Grande Valley, El Paso, Golden Triangle all have Docsis 2.0
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Anonymous_
Anonymous
Premium
join:2004-06-21
127.0.0.1
clubs:
·RoadRunner Cable
·Time Warner Cable
 ·Time Warner VOIP
| reply to Pizz
said by Pizz : Docsis 1.1 will be milked for quite awhile. yes but some areas have Docsis 2.0 (mostley old adelphia areas that had it all ready installed) |
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FHBroadband
join:2009-04-15
4 edits | reply to nycnetwork
If they did this to me I would have then asked him for the cancellation department and tell him that his persistence of trying to get me to sign up for VOIP is why I want to cancel.
Sounds like this droid was just after a commission. You didn't have to actually go thru with the cancellation if service was decent if you wanted to.
But:
People who treat me like trash like that get cancelled. No ifs and or butts.
I don't stand for crap. RCN was like that to me and lost lots of revenue since I wound up cancelling the whole service with them.
Time Warner via Earthlink Cable has not done anything bad on their end so far and in fact they aren't even pushing VoIP to me at all.
Knocking down price matters not because they will miss bill you and charge you full price.
All offers must be in WRITING and they tried to upsell you on a product you didn't want in order to gain more revenue. |
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nycnetwork
join:2000-11-12
Brooklyn, NY
| reply to Mero
My modem died so I called them to replace it.... Everything went great but at the end of the conversation the sales guy started asking me if i have another phone to add to my account. After I said no, he persistently tried to sign me up for their voice service... Even wanted to knock down the internet price...
It looks like they are desperate for their VoIP. |
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RR User
@rr.com
| reply to FHBroadband
I'm well aware the state of the economy right now. Yes, it's bad, but it could be worse.
However, TWC had a large ad in the News & Observer this past week, they are renting out a rather large venue, and having a pretty large hiring fair, of which I plan on going to later this week.
Companies like Verizon won't likely stop FIOS deployment in it's tracks. They did however note that they will likely slow deployment. Considering the economic environment, Verizon is weathering the recession rather well.
People are not dropping their cellphones or service quite as fast as you think. |
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FHBroadband
join:2009-04-15
3 edits | reply to RR User
No, I think you fail to realize the extent of the economic crisis we are in right now.
Firms like Verizon are not hiring anymore workers. In fact most firms have instituted hiring freezes at a minimum and are laying off workers.
Ivan Seidenberg with Charlie Rose specifically said point blank revenue margins were flat and they weren't hiring.
In fact the odds are in my honest opinion that Verizon will stop deployment of FIOS altogether because it costs way too much to deploy considering the nature of the economy we are in right now.
Docsis 3.0 is not as easy as you think to deploy and the fact is most customers will not be spending the extra for the service.
I think its more than doubtful that Verizon will meet its 2014 obligation for FIOS. However if they prove me wrong so be it but it will take a huge economy recovery during this time. |
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RR User
@rr.com
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NYC is a HUGE market, FH.
Verizon can't wire the whole city in a year, nor can they in a few years. It will take them years to expand their footprint in that area.
DOCSIS 3 is easier to deploy, since it is mainly a headend upgrade. It's very apparent though because of the density of NYC, that TWC has a lot of node congestion. DOCSIS 3 will ease that, however I'm unsure if any additional node splitting would be required.
I could be wrong, but I believe I did read somewhere on here once that deploying broadband in NYC is considerably more expensive and time consuming for Verizon, than say upgrading your average suburban town. |
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FHBroadband
join:2009-04-15
4 edits | reply to patt2k
Its interesting how Verizon FIOS is a no show here.
I thought we would have FIOS vs Docsis 3.0 by December in NYC but so far it doesn't look like the case.
Its pretty dead and bleak out there right now.
I remember when firms were rolling out fiber like it was no tomorrow. I used to see trucks like mad putting fiber in the streets all over for their firms in the NYC Metro area.
Times have changed now. I wouldn't be surprised if Docsis 3.0 was cancelled for NYC and FIOS was suspended. I just really wouldn't.
Which means Docsis 3.0 could very well be a no show for Time Warner. Doesn't matter either way. I could be wrong. But if it does come, how many people will pony up for it? |
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patt2k
join:2009-01-16
| reply to RR User
Thanks RR User. I mean for me 20 Meg Download At least 10 Meg upload is perfect For anything. So Just let's hope TWC can maintain 20 Meg download and give a better upload right know I am considereing to swich to 3 Meg dsl dry loop line because RR at night can';t handle even 3 megs goes to down to as low as 500-600 Kbps. It's a huge pain |
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RR User
@rr.com
| reply to patt2k
Yes and no, patt2k.
DOCSIS 3 would give you access to a larger "pool" of shared bandwidth with your neighbors on the same node, but it's still shared.
If TW kept the current speeds they offered in place, then DOCSIS 3 would easily free up the capacity needed to feed all the users. But DOCSIS 3 is going to be more of a Premium service, thus it will cost more and in order to be appealing will be significantly faster as well. Service speeds of 50-100Mbps will mean that just a few users could essentially saturate the node if they used their service to its fullest extent. So for an example, users on the node would still experience fast speeds, but below their (say 50Mbps) maximum. Then you will have people complaining that their 50-100Mbps connections are slowing down to 25Mbps at night.
you would have to have a few people on the node transferring some massive files in order for that to happen however. It's likely TW would throttle users who abuse their connections to such an extent in order to provide consistent speed for all users on the network.
DOCSIS 3 is important to cable companies that need to compete with FIOS, but all it's really doing is buying the cable companies some time. FIOS is still superior. |
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patt2k
join:2009-01-16 | reply to Mero
Anyone knows if docsis 3 will be more reliable what I'm talking about it is (1-3 meg during the whole day) ocassionaly 5-10 meg for like 2-3 minutes
by bonding channels? would the speed be reliable like fios? |
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FHBroadband
join:2009-04-15
| reply to mckenna797
I don't think Time Warner has anything to worry about with RCN and neither does Verizon FIOS.
The competion is Verizon FIOS vs Time Warner for all practical purposes and competition in New York City.
Only new models required will be for those customers who need to phase out older Docsis modems.
Docsis 3.0 modems will only be required for Docsis 3.0 tier customers. |
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MacAlert
join:2005-03-16
Flushing, NY | reply to NY11102
You would have to. Our current modems are only DOCSIS 2. |
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mckenna797
join:2004-08-25
Astoria, NY
·Time Warner VOIP
·RoadRunner Cable
| reply to NY11102
said by NY11102 :Is TWC gonna use new modems when Docsis 3 is deployed? What Modem is TWC providing now in NYC? the modems depend on your service level. we have Digital Phone and 10/512 road runner and we have the Arris tm402p |
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mckenna797
join:2004-08-25
Astoria, NY | reply to Mero
the reason NYC is getting Docsis 3 TWC has competition in this market, Verizon Fios and DSL, RCN other smaller provider, hot spots almost everywhere for the netbook
notebook crowd |
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