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| Road Runner - Docsis 3 news? Any updates regarding Docsis 3 coming soon or ever? Would be nice if we had an update on this.
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Hilliard, OH | Re: Road Runner - Docsis 3 news? No it's too expensive for Time Warner
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Rombus
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Columbus, OH | Re: Road Runner - Docsis 3 news? There is internal testing going on. But no dates for rollout AFAIK | |
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join:2009-04-15 | Re: Road Runner - Docsis 3 news? Is NYC still on for December 2009? | |
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maartena
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Orange, CA
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| There is a rumor that they MAY start testing DOCSIS3 some time in 2011, and are targeting for the first cities to be rolled out in 2014.
But that is just a rumor and speculation.
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WyckedKnight
join:2004-07-12
Van Nuys, CA | TWC i don't think wants to roll sDOCSis 3 out at all. this way in areas like mine which is still using DOcsis 1.1 they can call it a brownout and impose their BS caps policy. | |
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Pizz
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Astoria, NY
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| Re: Road Runner - Docsis 3 news? Direct competition markets will see some docsis 3.0 rollouts, but i dont not see them going full steam ahead like Comcast is doing. TWC has a bunch of retards running their company, and if they have to take increase any sort of spending, without getting 50000% markup, they won't do it. Docsis 1.1 will be milked for quite awhile.
Btw the cap trial cities that made TWC scrap the idea..Probably will not be seeing docsis 3.0 because TWC decided you, didnt play nice with them, so no docsis 3.0 for you!
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hobgoblin
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Orchard Park, NY
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Pizz
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join:2000-10-27
Astoria, NY
·Verizon Online DSL
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| Re: Road Runner - Docsis 3 news? They'll implement Docsis 3 in every single franchise, if you allow TWC to put in their original CBB plans. Hell i'll even go out with full blown speculation. Docsis 3 tiers will have a paltry 25,75,100gigs - each being 39.99, 59.99, 79.99 - with 1 dollar per gig for each overage.
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hobgoblin
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join:2001-11-25
Orchard Park, NY
clubs: | I doubt 99% of the subscribers have any clue what Docsis 3.0 is!
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Flushing, NY
1 edit | Re: Road Runner - Docsis 3 news? I bet 99% of TWC employees don't know what DOCSIS 3 is.
Let's not forget it was one of TWC's executives who said they don't see the need for higher internet speeds. | |
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hobgoblin
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| Re: Road Runner - Docsis 3 news? "I bet 99% of TWC employees don't know what DOCSIS 3 is."
and I'd take your money.
"Let's not forget it was one of TWC's executives who said they don't see the need for higher internet speeds."
Today.....he is probably right.
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4 edits | NYC will go Docsis 3.0 to compete with Verizon FIOS.
Verizon is wiring up new areas in NYC as we speak.
99% of employees don't know what Cablelabs is? Well most employees for companies on the bottom of the ladder are quite unknowledgable on their own product lines.
Bright people who don't know about telecommunications products won't know either although they know about cablemodems and broadband in general.
However, customers do know SPEED and want faster and better technologies to emerge.
They know what fiber optics is and the like.
I can say that Andy Grove of Intel knows what Cablelabs is as he mentioned it with Charlie Rose straight up. If Intel knows what it is, and makes the majority and the best of the worlds processors for computers, you can bet your bottom dollar that we will up the pipe.
Why it hasn't been done as of yet I can't answer. I am hoping it is the 8 channel Docsis 3.0 product.
Remember there is a ton of things that go on including spectrum allocation and the like. Extensive trials and field tests need to be done and maybe even tweaking of the networks themselves.
"Now, only days after the Broadcom announcement, Cisco has revealed its plan to develop a new DOCSIS 3.0 modem based on the Broadcom silicon. According to Multichannel News, the device will be submitted for CableLabs certification this spring, with widespread deployment scheduled for 2010."
Time Warner could very well be readying its Cablelabs docsis 3.0 8 channel product since Verizon FIOS is raising its speed tiers.
Time Warner has every reason to migrate to Docsis 3.0 and they know it.
You can't succeed as a cable firm unless you offer technological changes especially in the New York City market with FIOS, Time Warner and RCN in some markets.
Residential broadband is not a commercial grade product and has to be done to a very large scale using shared OC Pipes and the like and the last mile is the most expensive and challenging part to get accomplished.
Time Warner has the last mile, Verizon FIOS is building the last mile, RCN has partially built out the last mile and AT&T owns huge central offices and facilities and could really build out its own network as well if it wanted to since it has successfully deployed U-Verse elsewhere. The lack of a product better than AT&T DSL is a disappointment. But with so much competition between FIOS and Time Warner and with partial competition, I don't see AT&T spending billions to build out U-Verse to NYC.
Docsis 3.0 needs to get done. It is the future. Docsis 3.0 is needed for society. | |
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join:2000-08-11
Bangor, ME | Re: Road Runner - Docsis 3 news? Faster speeds would be nice, but consistent speeds and better latency would suit me fine. | |
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| Re: Road Runner - Docsis 3 news? »speedtest.nyc.rr.com/
Shows 100MBPS now. Someone else pointed this out after this forum was created then it made top story here.
Looks like Docsis 3.0 is on track for this year for NYC and this just happened to be the first sign of it. | |
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Charlotte, NC | Heard today from a very reliable inside source, no DOCSIS 3 for the Charlotte area anytime soon. Budget problems. | |
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Matt
Take me down to the paradise city
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Jamestown, NC
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| Re: Road Runner - Docsis 3 news? said by GVG  :Heard today from a very reliable inside source, no DOCSIS 3 for the Charlotte area anytime soon. Budget problems. The Charlotte area has some major issues, at least where my CEO is. We had to have a DSL line installed as his Biz Class line is too unreliable and suffering too much packet loss to support a measly VoIP connection. After fussing and getting them to admit it's a problem at the headend that is going to take months to fix, we couldn't wait any longer. | |
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2 edits | That is unfortunate. Not sure how the Charlotte area is but for NYC it is definitely a go.
Competition is intense here. Budget problems are just an excuse. | |
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Road Runner
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| NYC will be the only DOCSIS 3.0 launch in the country this year. Which is lame, by any standard, but the suits at TWC argue the speeds aren't necessary. In reality, they face crap last-gen DSL competition in the majority of their markets -- so it's not that consumers don't want the speed -- it's that they really don't need to deploy it until 2010 or 2011 -- if even then.
A source at Cisco says DOCSIS 3.0 gear has been in NYC for months for testing...since before Sprint even. Another new source at Time Warner Cable who reached out this week insists the NYC launch will be in weeks, not months. No confirmation of this last bit though... | |
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join:2009-04-15 | Re: Road Runner - Docsis 3 news? FIOS had permits in my town then new sewer work permits came in. Unclear what is going on. | |
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Pizz
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join:2000-10-27
Astoria, NY
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| Re: Road Runner - Docsis 3 news? said by Anonymous_ :said by Pizz : Docsis 1.1 will be milked for quite awhile. yes but some areas have Docsis 2.0 (mostley old adelphia areas that had it all ready installed) The entire footprint of NYC is docsis 1.1 - only ex adelphia (as you said) and come comcast areas which upgraded, are only on 2.0 - thats why turbo in a ex adelphia area is usually above 1mbps on the upload, where docsis 1.1 is existing, its 768kbps.
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join:2000-11-12
Brooklyn, NY | Re: Road Runner - Docsis 3 news? NYC D1.1 turbo is 20/1 with powerboost so those few that are not on the overcrowded nodes get 30+mbps down and 1up with the powerboost. | |
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1 edit | Any plans for Docsis 2.0 to NYC? Switching to Verizon is just too much a hassle for me in my life right now.
My cablemodem is Docsis 2.0 capable. Would be nice if they offered Docsis 2.0 service, I don't need Docsis 3.0 speeds. Docsis 2.0 would be plenty if it was offered. | |
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join:2000-11-12
Brooklyn, NY
| Re: Road Runner - Docsis 3 news? RR will skip Docsis 2.0 so don't wait for that. Docsis 3.0 is supposed to be implemented by the end of the year. I had outage last night, hoping to see any upgrade, but nothing has changed.
If I had an option to go with Verizon FIOS, I wouldnt miss a beat. 25/25 package is too hard to refuse, imho, tbh. | |
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Phillip M Dampier
join:2003-03-23
Rochester, NY
| Time Warner is on its projected schedule to roll out DOCSIS 3 in the metropolitan NYC area by the end of this year.
Company officials have not announced any additional specific cities at this time, but claimed they would progress towards additional rollouts in selected cities as market conditions warrant.
What this means in reality is that they will not allow themselves to fall significantly behind a comparable competitor (muni fiber broadband, AT&T U-verse, or Verizon FiOS). | |
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join:2009-04-15 | Re: Road Runner - Docsis 3 news? Yeah Ive been told that Verizon FIOS upgraded speeds for the NYC Market.
My area looks like it will be getting FIOS as well in the near future. So it will likely be a Docsis 3.0 vs FIOS race. | |
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Dareius
Self proclaimed Premium member
join:2002-11-12
Elmhurst, NY | Hope they get it out before 2012.
Supposedly that is when the world is going to end. Earth will be colliding with a big chunk of green space cheese.  | |
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join:2009-04-15
| Re: Road Runner - Docsis 3 news? FIOS is being laid and hopefully comes to where I am soon.
TWC has said they will do Docsis 3.0 here by December and I bet they will when FIOS is more deployed and the economy starts picking back up and the like.
I don't see Time Warner changing plans for Docsis 3.0 in NYC considering FIOS is raising speed tiers in NY markets and will be out to more of NYC as time goes on. | |
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Matt
Take me down to the paradise city
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join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC | They were supposed to roll it out in the Greensboro market along with usage based billing trials, but I believe pulled the plug on it? | |
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okko321
join:2009-05-12
Flushing, NY | will docis 3.0 speed b consistent? n wen did dey bring dcosis 2.0 in ny? | |
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Matt
Take me down to the paradise city
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| Re: Road Runner - Docsis 3 news? said by okko321 :will docis 3.0 speed b consistent? n wen did dey bring dcosis 2.0 in ny? What? | |
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NY11102
join:2008-02-27
Astoria, NY | Is TWC gonna use new modems when Docsis 3 is deployed? What Modem is TWC providing now in NYC? | |
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mckenna797
join:2004-08-25
Astoria, NY
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| Re: Road Runner - Docsis 3 news? said by NY11102 :Is TWC gonna use new modems when Docsis 3 is deployed? What Modem is TWC providing now in NYC? the modems depend on your service level. we have Digital Phone and 10/512 road runner and we have the Arris tm402p | |
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Flushing, NY | You would have to. Our current modems are only DOCSIS 2. | |
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mckenna797
join:2004-08-25
Astoria, NY | the reason NYC is getting Docsis 3 TWC has competition in this market, Verizon Fios and DSL, RCN other smaller provider, hot spots almost everywhere for the netbook
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join:2009-04-15
| Re: Road Runner - Docsis 3 news? I don't think Time Warner has anything to worry about with RCN and neither does Verizon FIOS.
The competion is Verizon FIOS vs Time Warner for all practical purposes and competition in New York City.
Only new models required will be for those customers who need to phase out older Docsis modems.
Docsis 3.0 modems will only be required for Docsis 3.0 tier customers. | |
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patt2k
join:2009-01-16 | Anyone knows if docsis 3 will be more reliable what I'm talking about it is (1-3 meg during the whole day) ocassionaly 5-10 meg for like 2-3 minutes
by bonding channels? would the speed be reliable like fios? | |
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nycnetwork
join:2000-11-12
Brooklyn, NY
| My modem died so I called them to replace it.... Everything went great but at the end of the conversation the sales guy started asking me if i have another phone to add to my account. After I said no, he persistently tried to sign me up for their voice service... Even wanted to knock down the internet price...
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join:2009-04-15
4 edits | Re: Road Runner - Docsis 3 news? If they did this to me I would have then asked him for the cancellation department and tell him that his persistence of trying to get me to sign up for VOIP is why I want to cancel.
Sounds like this droid was just after a commission. You didn't have to actually go thru with the cancellation if service was decent if you wanted to.
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People who treat me like trash like that get cancelled. No ifs and or butts.
I don't stand for crap. RCN was like that to me and lost lots of revenue since I wound up cancelling the whole service with them.
Time Warner via Earthlink Cable has not done anything bad on their end so far and in fact they aren't even pushing VoIP to me at all.
Knocking down price matters not because they will miss bill you and charge you full price.
All offers must be in WRITING and they tried to upsell you on a product you didn't want in order to gain more revenue. | |
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Unacceptable Behaviour
join:2001-05-31
Dallas, TX | The areas I can check in Texas - North Texas, Rio Grande Valley, El Paso, Golden Triangle all have Docsis 2.0
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