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cheryllj

@myvzw.com

 [Scam] Never Pay it Back .com

Hi,
For about the past month there's been a very hot add running on some Portland, OR radio stations. It states that private philanthropists want to help citizens in need so they're willing to give $2500 to an individual, the application only takes 1 minute to fill out & you "never pay it back"!!!
Well, being curious I wanted to check the website out & here I am....after being taken to:
»www.govgrantstudy.info/?gclid=CM···odwDrlCA, then when you try to exit the page you may be taken to another page at:
»www.govgrantstudy.info/c2m.php?sub=EXIT
which states that this government grant study program has been featured on ABC, NBC, CBS & FOX networks. The only cost to you is $2.95 for shipping.


nwrickert
sand groper
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The domain govgrantstudy.info was created May 21. It is barely one month old.

Very likely to be a scam.
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pcdebb
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reply to cheryllj
the ad claims are more than likely 99.999999% false, but you were one of a few hundred that decided to inquire about it. the others just went with it, gave their info for the 2.95, and will be inquiring later about their $2500.
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MGD
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join:2002-07-31
Fort Lauderdale, FL

reply to cheryllj
said by cheryllj :

Hi,
For about the past month there's been a very hot add running on some Portland, OR radio stations. It states that private philanthropists want to help citizens in need so they're willing to give $2500 to an individual, the application only takes 1 minute to fill out & you "never pay it back"!!!
......
ALL ADVERTISEMENTS FOR GOVERNMENT GRANTS WHICH REQUIRE YOU TO PROVIDE CREDIT OR CHECKING DATA ARE SCAMS, NO EXCEPTIONS !!, and that is not just my opinion: »www.ftc.gov/bcp/edu/pubs/consume···134.shtm

You should contact your local media who are accepting commercials from these scammers and complain. In fact in this case they could become a party to a potnetial class action:

govgrantstudy.info is a paid affiliate which redirects to Grants360.com as well as other scam sites:

quote:
Grants360.com Class Action Investigation
An investigation is currently being conducted regarding possible unauthorized credit card transactions being made by Grants360.com and/or one or more of its business partners. Consumers may be first alerted to the possible unauthorized credit card transactions when they notice a cryptic recurring monthly charge on their credit card bill.

You should check your credit card and bank statements for suspicious charges. If you feel you have been the victim of an unauthorized credit card transaction by Grants360.com or one of its business partners, please fill out the contact form below.

This website is not associated with nor authorized by Grants360.com.

»www.abingtonlaw.com/grants360cla···ion.html

said by cheryllj :

........which states that this government grant study program has been featured on ABC, NBC, CBS & FOX networks.
.....
Displaying those ABC, NBC, CBS & FOX network's logos by govgrantstudy.info is an illegal trademark and copyright infringement. It is fraud facilitation and deception, none of them made any such endorsements.

said by cheryllj :

The only cost to you is $2.95 for shipping.

That minimal cost is a ruse in order to obtain your financial info. Here is what happens next:

quote:
unauthorized charge

Complaint Rating:
Company information:
incomepeer.com
unknown/360 grants alt name
Apache Junction, Arizona
United States
Phone: 1-866-955-1669
incomepeer.com

I only authorized them to remove $1.95 but they charged me $57.61 and $1.95 for a total of $59.56 plus my bank charged me a $38.00 bounce fee.i am disabled i now have no money and my electric is being shut off.thanks alot incomepeer.com how do u people sleep at night.I WANT MY MONEY BACK NOW!CREDIT IT BACK TO THE SAME CARD YOU CHARGED IMMEDIATELY.I WILL NOT LET THIS GO I NEED MY MONEY I AM POOR.-------AILEEN BISHOP--REDACTED@gmail.com

»www.complaintsboard.com/complain···868.html

quote:
I am a single mother of three and just lost my job. With no where to turn I thought 360grants would help me, but when it rains it sure does pour. They say they are taking 1.95 out for shipping and handl, but really they STEAL more then that. As soon as I did it I checked my account and not only was 1.95 missing which was fine but also 38.21 had been unauthorized illegally and taken out. i called the number which was provided and spoke with an operator (which by the way is the only one who works there) she is a freak and can't speak english. She let me know that she would cancel my membership but could not put my money back because it would not authorize her to do so, wich is a crock of shit!!!! I told her that if she did not put my money back in my account I would turn her and the company over to the FBI. It was the only thing I could think of because I was so freaken mad. She told me that the only way to get a hold of taxrefundguide.com was to email them since they were the ones who took the 38.21 right......Wrong! They are one and the same company who do not tell you that they are taking 38.21 out along with the 1.95 the site answered none of my questions anyway and was not helpful to my situation. Warning: ALL GRANT SITES ARE FRAUDS!

»www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/4···7306.htm

quote:
When I received my bank statment on Friday, May 15th, I noticed there were a couple of charges that were not approved charges by me or my husband. There was a number to call, so I called the number, I was told to go to refunds@grants 360 to get a refund. When I got to work this morning, I tried to get on-line, but received an error message. There were 2 charges to my account, 1 from grants360.com for 58.07 and another one from turbo-irs-ta.com for 38.52. The phone numbers on my statement for these 2 charges are: turbo-irs-ta-1-866-978-1126 and grants360.com-1-866-955-1669. When I called both numbers, the same girls answered for both companies! I did not order anything and defineatey did not give them permission to debit my checking account.

»www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/4···2820.htm

Please contact our support department at 1.866.955.1669 or email us at support@grants360.com.

grants360.com is currently processing charges via:

Cure Technologies Inc.
Unit 300 - 1000 West 14th' Street
North Vancouver, B.C V7P 3P3
Tele: (604) 990 1588
Fax (604) 990 1575
Email: info@cure.net

under an account id of 504704

quote:
>https://www.grants360.com/signup/gateways/signup.php?memberid=504704&gateway=CUREPAY

form method="post" action="signup.php" onsubmit="hidepay(); areYouReallySure = true;"

input type="hidden" name="memberid" value="504704"
input type="hidden" name="natssess" value=""
input type="hidden" name="gateway" value="CUREPAY"
.

MGD


rzaruba

join:2000-08-04

reply to cheryllj
quote:
For about the past month there's been a very hot add running on some Portland, OR radio stations.
I don't know about you, but I don't think there are any legitimate ads on radio any more.

They basically run:
1) Government grants
2) Debt reduction schemes
3) Credit card debt elimination
4) Internet kiosks
5) Colon cleansers
6) "Enlargement" products
7) Products containing zinc
8) Other quack health products
9) Real estate schemes
10) Products advertised a fake radio shows and interviews that insult the intelligence................

What have I missed?


Kibbles
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Mission Viejo, CA

reply to cheryllj
I bet you end up at a site similar to vemmabuilder.com which asks for CC info so they can sell/send you a CD with the grant information.

I wonder why they have S&H charges less than $3.00?
If I had a site like that I would at least charge $19.95
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nwrickert
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reply to rzaruba
I don't know about you, but I don't think there are any legitimate ads on radio any more.
There are still a few, but the quantity of outright scams being pushed on the radio is distressingly high.
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MGD
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join:2002-07-31
Fort Lauderdale, FL

reply to cheryllj
said by cheryllj :

Re: [Scam] Never Pay it Back .com
FYI, the subject title NeverPayitBack.com is also discussed in this thread: »[Scam] Federal Funds Administration and is part of this group:

Federalfundsadministration.com
Nevergiveitback.com
Neverpayitback.com

MGD

egecko

join:2001-02-27
Beaverton, OR

reply to pcdebb
HA! sorry, but people that don't research before submitting information where they get something for free that's advertised on the radio should know better. Especially when they are asked for financial information to where they will be charged a small fee for information! I've heard the commercial plenty of times and of course decided to read all of the disclaimers, privacy and other notices on the website to see what it's all about. After reading them, it still didn't really make sense to me so I searched for reviews and found several.

My high school government teacher would say "There is no such thing as a free lunch!" and I have always remembered this phrase and followed it when things like this have come up.


nwrickert
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My high school government teacher would say "There is no such thing as a free lunch!" and I have always remembered this phrase and followed it when things like this have come up.
That's a good principle to remember.

I am quite amazed by the number of obvious scams that I hear advertised on the radio. It seems that there are no longer any standards. Is fraud the only growth industry left in America?
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nirvansk815
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My only hope are forums such as these.


captokita
Premium
join:2005-02-22
Calabash, NC

reply to MGD
said by MGD See Profile :

You should contact your local media who are accepting commercials from these scammers and complain. In fact in this case they could become a party to a potnetial class action:
Doubt they would be liable - no more so than a tv station plays the "Make millions selling ads" commercials.

But that wouldn't stop someone from trying of course.

MGD
Premium,MVM
join:2002-07-31
Fort Lauderdale, FL

said by captokita See Profile :

said by MGD See Profile :

You should contact your local media who are accepting commercials from these scammers and complain. In fact in this case they could become a party to a potnetial class action:
Doubt they would be liable - no more so than a tv station plays the "Make millions selling ads" commercials.
..
.
Yes, that is true, and I doubt they could be held liable either. However the FTC is now putting pressure on other media outlets for allowing blatant scam adds, and unless TV and Radio media clean up their act, I can see some regulations being enacted.

quote:
FTC to Web Publishers: Get Rid of Stimulus Scam Ads

By Kate Kaye, ClickZ, Mar 4, 2009

Web site publishers and ad networks are on the Federal Trade Commission's radar, but this time it's not for behavioral targeting or data privacy related concerns. The FTC warned it is cracking down on misleading ads and e-mails promoting access to economic stimulus related grants, and the media firms enabling those ads. Some of the scams are promoted through display ads featuring photos of President Obama, Google sponsored listings featuring the president's name, or sites displaying his 2008 campaign logo or logos of popular news outlets.

Facebook has already agreed to ban such ads, and Google is working with the FTC to investigate ads that violate its advertiser policies, according to the commission.

The FTC is asking "online media companies to monitor their sites for scam ads and get rid of them," said Eileen Harrington, acting director of the FTC's Bureau of Consumer Protection, this morning during a press conference.

.....
..
.
"Our AdWords Content Policy does not permit ads for sites that make false claims, and we investigate and remove any ads that violate our policies," said Google in a statement e-mailed to ClickZ News. "We have discussed these issues with the Federal Trade Commission and reaffirmed our commitment to protecting users from scam ads."

Facebook has agreed to ban stimulus-related scam ads from its site. "Ads touting free stimulus money were on Facebook," said Harrington, who said the company pulled the ads on its own volition, and following conversations with the FTC. "We absolutely salute Facebook for being so proactive in this regard," she added.

But it may not be easy for publishers and ad sellers to rid the Web of such nefarious advertising. Exactly who's behind such ads is difficult to determine. Many lead to domains that differ from the ones featured in the ad copy, and transfer from one domain to another. For instance, ObamaStimulusPlan.info features news headlines and links to economic stimulus information, and an ad promoting "free money in government grants," which leads the user to a site associated with Grant Stimulus Source; the site also features CNN and CNBC logos.
............
...
.

Ref: »www.clickz.com/3633002

MGD


Stephanie

@rr.com

reply to cheryllj
I heard the 'Never Pay it Back' ad on a radio station in NC. You would think that radio stations would be more selective about the information that is being broadcasted. The same goes for TV stations. This is an indication of how far people will go to get money.

NormanS
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reply to egecko
said by egecko See Profile :

My high school government teacher would say "There is no such thing as a free lunch!" and I have always remembered this phrase and followed it when things like this have come up.
Your teacher was clearly a Robert A. Heinlein (science fiction author) fan. That is a variation on a quote from Heinlein's, The Moon is a Harsh Mistress: "There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch" (rendered as, "TANSTAAFL").
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timberwolf

@comcast.net

reply to cheryllj
Bravo 2 all that caught the scam presented on radios through out the country. if this was a true ad they would not ask for financial info,rather send you a true form 2 fill out and send 2 a legitimate office. so i whole heartedly agree this is a 100% scam these people that prey on people in todays time and economy need 2 b punished


HW

@comcast.net

reply to cheryllj
If it's too good to be true then it usually is. It's understandable given the economic times that we live in but organizations that give money away for nothing do so without having to advertise on the radio. Any time that someone asks for any kind of financial / personal information turn around and run...Live in Northern California and just did hear the commercial this a.m. Thought I'd check it out like I always do when something like this (radio / phone / newspaper) runs a blurb and this is usually the way that it ends up, a scam. I'm sorry for the people that have had troubles with this. If I could help I would but I've been unemployed for almost two years now and yes it sucks!!

I did give a couple of guys and their dog who were sitting at the exit of an in-n-out burger $20 last week for food for themselves and their dog (they did tell me that their pet comes first) and I wished I could have done more (thankfully my wife has a decent job but we're still feeling the effects of me not working) for them.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that we all have to be careful in this day and age. It just takes a tragedy / personal grieve for the criminals to come out of the woodwork. It's scum like this that makes it hard for good people to trust each other.

And with that I'm done. I wish you all well!

Whip

join:2009-01-23
Califon, NJ

reply to cheryllj
quote:
It is definitely a scam. I entered the first name "Chuck", and the email address..... charlesmanson@folsomprison.gov (Not where he's really located, but what the heck.....) and guess what???? I QUALIFIED!!!! I did read the terms and conditions, and not only is there the talk of the recurring fee, but check this out......

This Agreement shall be governed by and construed in accordance with the laws of the Philippines , without regard to its conflict of laws rules. Any legal action arising out of this Agreement shall be litigated and enforced under the laws of the Philippines.

In addition, you agree to submit to the jurisdiction of the courts of the Philippines, and that any legal action pursued by you shall be within the exclusive jurisdiction of the courts of the Philippines in Pasig City, Philippines.

The terms constituting this offering are set forth in writing on this Web site. You hereby agree to submit to the jurisdiction located in Pasig City, Philippines to resolve any disputes or litigation hereunder. Whether or not you choose to print this offering, containing the terms and conditions as described herein, you agree that this contract constitutes a writing.

»scam.com/showthread.php?p=778392#post778392


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reply to nwrickert
I've wondered the same thing. I don't expect radio stations to be cops or Private Investigators, but for crying out loud, some of the commercials I hear could only be considered legitimate by a moron. Looks to me like the radio stations don't care if it is a scam as long as they're getting the ad revenue.
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reply to rzaruba
You've about covered it. I almost find it difficult to listen to radio anymore because I hear so much of this horse sh!t I just get angry when the commercials run.
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