drew
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Re: Entry Level DSLR
Pentax claims 1100 shots on LiIon -- I call BS on that. |
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1 edit | said by drew  :Pentax claims 1100 shots on LiIon -- I call BS on that. All the makers claims are higher than real life, but from what I've found, 600-800 shots on Eneloops is about average. That's not far off from what I get with my K10D's proprietary Li-Ion.
Which battery type is really a personal preference. Some like AA's better, some like proprietary better. My daughter has 2131 shots on her K100D, and as far as I can recall, has recharged the Eneloops maybe 4 or 5 times. I think they've only completely run out 2 times. The vast majority were taken witout flash, probably 2000 or so.
My personal preference is the proprietary, but the AA's seem to work well enough here. |
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drew
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clubs: | I'm over 3500 shots on the XS and I've gone through maybe 6 battery charges. I like the proprietary thing versus the AA.. |
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robar
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$600 for an entry dslr and a lens??
it'll practically have to be used.. no problem there and you may pick up a great deal.. i just upgraded to a pentax model thats been on the market for over a year and i'll be happy for the next 3 years
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DavisPhotog
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clubs: | What? The D40 with a kit lens can be had for $375-400, depending on where you buy it.
You can get the D40 with 2 kit lenses for under $600. |
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| said by DavisPhotog :What? The D40 with a kit lens can be had for $375-400, depending on where you buy it. You can get the D40 with 2 kit lenses for under $600. sorry, but i've not kept up om prices
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Hayward
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Re: Entry Level DSLR
said by Mike D :Howdy all, I am looking for some advice on a DSLR camera. I'm about to be a father and want to bump up my camera and photography skills as I will soon be taking a ton of pictures. Well assuming you have no lens investment from film era you seem not to....
money but will NOT leave you wishing for more.
OK you can get base Nikon (semi cripled) D40 or Cannon Rebel..... maybe wishing for more jst a year down the road....
Or out of the gate go for a Pentax K10D if you can still find one, or a 20D.... maybe a bit more. Extermely capable cameras used by many pros, and at near entry of C&N level cost far more capable cameras.
You want the LABEL impression of I'm cool like everyone, or actual functionality? (And that might me defined by how much high end clothing you are wearing.... you really needed to pay $50 extra to have their trade mak on you doing advertising too???.... I will wear anyones T-Shirt I get for free.... but DAMN I will pay through the nose to do their advertising.
And why there are only 2 levels of DSLR's with Pentax.... Good and real good. C&N like 5 levels of nonsense, just so they can resell, after your realize you made a mistake but lens invested maybe. you after makiing a silly price decision for be in the cool circle, vs actual functionality.
And is the Pentax K20D the most perfect cam ever made.... NO, but very pro level vs the other 2 choice very $$$$ to go in the C&N world... and the 2 or 3 below you may have already been through one step at a time.
And again Petax only does two... very good not bottom line basic... and not ultimate either but VERY good, to the point many pros use the 20D level, and manybe even multiple bodies that on the C%N level would be very costly.
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Hayward
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2 edits | reply to drew
said by drew :Pentax claims 1100 shots on LiIon -- I call BS on that. said by drew :Pentax claims 1100 shots on LiIon -- I call BS on that. Possible but definately no internal flash and rest peiods in those shots.... not all 1100 back to back continual.
Then again even when sitting for a month very surprised how long the P K10D and 20D batt lasts.... and honestly actually 3 rd party/cheaper higher capacity lasts even bet that OEM battery.
Actually my primary, OEM is the backup. (about 300+ maH better), at less than half the cost.
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DavisPhotog
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| Yeah, the 3rd party batteries are definitely the way to go. I bought one for $8 shipped to my door (from an eBay store centered in Hong Kong of all places), and it works fine. Had 2 or 3 of them for my 20D and I got 1500+ shots from 2 in the grip on a regular basis.
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Hayward
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3 edits | And BTW... BOTHH are from my 10D.... haven't even touched the 20D OEM batt.
And By the way Kudos to Abes Of Maine.... when I ordered my 20D.... sure they tried to sell me stuff/everything, but when I said I have ALL that just replacing a 10D body.... need NOTHING.... they aquiesed.... and sold it... where as many other places it would have been suddenly unavailable.
And honestly I had missed Ed MCMahon had passed away and though I never watch it noticed TVG channel had a retrospective, but all 3 times I tried to record it it was another MIchael Jackson pice of BS 
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DavisPhotog
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| Yeah, I don't order from those types of places after I had my first bad experience with them in 2002. For new stuff it's pretty much Amazon or B&H or Adorama only.
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Hayward
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4 edits | But again ABES did do it (live up to the sale)and many others have spoken well of them as well as B&H I have had good results from new and used, and Amazon,.
though Amazon doesn't really surprise me just being a straight forward discount retail outlet... they wouldn't put up with the BS either.
bUt for instance in NYC B&H is one of the few that won't pull that BS if you won't buy overpriced batts and accs as well. (Let alone likely gray market and one of those accs is actually a 3rd party questionable warranty.... bringing it up tgo US cost, with an actual US manufacture warranty.
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drew
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Add buydig.com to your list. Gbcue recommended them to me when I bought the Rebel. Didn't get a single "you need to buy the ______" call and my wife recently purchased my 50mm from them with no complaints.
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Thoughts??
Pentax K10D (Refurbished Body)
»www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp···89166763
Pentax 18-55mm lens with hood
»www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp···90915470
That would put me right in my price range.
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nklb
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| I would say go for the K10D at that price, but as for the kit 18-55mm lens, $200 is a rip-off price.
If you really want that lens, you shouldn't pay more than $100 for it.
However, if you are willing to plunk down $200 for a lens, there are likely other better choices.
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Mike D
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1 edit | Ok. Think I may be pulling the trigger on that body this week. Any suggestions on lenses? |
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| If you want the kit lens, you can pick up a quality used one for $50, maybe $120 tops for a new one. Another cheap one used would be the Sigma 28-105 f/2.8-4 for maybe $75. $280 or so will get you the Pentax 16-45 f/4. You could probably also pick up the kit 18-55 and 50-200 for less than $300 total. |
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Rufus T Firefly
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said by Mike D :Ok. Think I may be pulling the trigger on that body this week. Any suggestions on lenses? Amazon has the kit lens for $118.95 from Cameta.
»www.amazon.com/Pentax-18-55mm-3-···012QE4DK
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KEH currently has a used 18-55 DA-AL II for 105 (EX+). The reviews indicate the II lens is an upgrade from the original (non II) lens.
The have a non II for 72 (also EX+)
For convenience
»www.keh.com/OnLineStore/ProductL···BC=&GCC=
KEH is listed in the FAQ as a reputable online source. My only experience with them was positive. |
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