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| reply to bkjohnson Re: [Mossberg] New Mac Laptops Use Batteries Sealed for Power
said by bkjohnson :I personally would rather not have a sealed, soldered battery. Who said the battery is soldered to the internal circuit board? This ifixit guide seems to indicate otherwise: »www.ifixit.com/Teardown/MacBook-···dy/814/1 |
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| I missed that. A sealed battery would not be a deal breaker for me, but I still prefer easily swappable batteries, and have used them to great advantage, both in cell phones and computers. Our group uses several Macbooks. They have advantages and disadvantages, as do the Windows machines we use. The sealed batteries remind me of some makes of automobiles that have spark plugs that are extremely difficult to access. |
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| reply to haroldo Anything short of free in store replacement of dead batteries would be nonsense.
It has become accepted practice to have a non user replaceable battery in phones and MP3 players because these are cheaper devices. $2700 laptops, though? This is going to tick a lot of people off. |
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| reply to haroldo said by haroldo :said by russotto :...And the mile-high club is purest fantasy... I'm a member! Not sure, but does it count if I was alone at the time? that would be the solo aviator division -- "and no matter how drunk you get .. don't lick the wall socket to test polarity..." |
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hans solo? |
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  DavisPhotog Flyingphotog Premium,MVM join:2001-08-26 Oakland, CA clubs:
| reply to thender said by thender :Anything short of free in store replacement of dead batteries would be nonsense. It has become accepted practice to have a non user replaceable battery in phones and MP3 players because these are cheaper devices. $2700 laptops, though? This is going to tick a lot of people off. Seriously though, it's a small percentage of batteries that need replacement. $2700 for the most expensive model, few of which I EVER see around. -- I am the Flying Photog, see my website accordingly named Flyingphotog.com. User known formerly as zakooldude. |
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| Replacement for defects and swapped with a fully charged battery are two entirely different things.
Why can't you people tell these things apart? There is much more of a chance to run out of battery power (I don't for a second believe the five hour claim over five years) than to have one quit. The latter would be covered by Applecare while the former would put you in a world of hurt if you need your computer and are not near power.
The airline flight argument earlier is all academic. If you are seriously in need of your computer on the road you don't put up with Apple's design shortcuts. Period. |
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| reply to DavisPhotog said by DavisPhotog :Seriously though, it's a small percentage of batteries that need replacement. No it's not. These batteries are one step closer to death everytime you use them. |
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| said by thender :said by DavisPhotog :Seriously though, it's a small percentage of batteries that need replacement. No it's not. These batteries are one step closer to death everytime you use them. You're one step closer to death every day too. Everything wears out.
Demanding Apple replace laptop batteries for free is like demanding Ford replace worn-out tires for free. As far as I know, no laptop manufacturer replaces batteries for free outside the warranty period. |
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| said by russotto :said by thender :said by DavisPhotog :Seriously though, it's a small percentage of batteries that need replacement. No it's not. These batteries are one step closer to death everytime you use them. You're one step closer to death every day too. Everything wears out. Demanding Apple replace laptop batteries for free is like demanding Ford replace worn-out tires for free. As far as I know, no laptop manufacturer replaces batteries for free outside the warranty period. if they expect me to be without a laptop when they are replacing the battery they better damn well compensate me for time spent waiting -- "and no matter how drunk you get .. don't lick the wall socket to test polarity..." |
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  ArthurS Watch Those Blinking Lights Premium join:2000-10-28 Hamilton, ON
| said by C_ :if they expect me to be without a laptop when they are replacing the battery they better damn well compensate me for time spent waiting So because you don't know how to use a screwdriver, when you take your computer in for battery replacement, you expect to be paid for time spent waiting? 
The few times I've taken my MBP in for repair at my local Apple store, they had it fixed within a couple hours (ProCare membership has paid for itself many times over). I planned my schedule accordingly and spent those few hours meeting with a client. I could also have spent a few hours with my wife shopping at the mall. |
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3 edits | after over a hundred replies, I think I have a great workaround
if you like the idea of a sealed battery, buy it.
if you don't like the idea, don't buy one!
In five or ten years if there aren't any Apple laptops sold with removable batteries, that'll be a problem, but until then, the workaround should suffice. |
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Tell that to United. Going to Australia in August. No power in Economy or Economy Plus. -- AT&T U-Hearse Your funeral. Delivered.
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1 edit | reply to ArthurS said by ArthurS :said by C_ :if they expect me to be without a laptop when they are replacing the battery they better damn well compensate me for time spent waiting So because you don't know how to use a screwdriver, when you take your computer in for battery replacement, you expect to be paid for time spent waiting? last time i checked unscrewing the laptop voided your warranty  -- "and no matter how drunk you get .. don't lick the wall socket to test polarity..." |
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| reply to djrobx said by djrobx : quote: On international flights, even economy class seats have a power outlet these days.
Tell that to United. Going to Australia in August. No power in Economy or Economy Plus. Perhaps fly Quantas or Air New Zealand? They have outlets in premium economy on their long haul 747's. Or if you're stuck with United, then get yourself an external battery pack as listed earlier in this thread for a little more than the price of a second battery pack, but with twice the capacity! Hopefully it should be available by then. »www.pitchengine.com/free-release···id=10449 |
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| I'm actually about to buy something similar for my iPhone. Nonstop SFO > Heathrow on Friday. Too bad Apple won't price match any of these other places or that I didn't order it in advance, since Apple charges a small fortune for it: »store.apple.com/us/product/TR823···overview -- I am the Flying Photog, see my website accordingly named Flyingphotog.com. User known formerly as zakooldude. |
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