seangprice
join:2002-09-10
Coalville, UT
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Re: Is Blu-Ray a Failure?
Blu-Ray is this Decades laser disc, my opinion of course. It costs to much for the average person to get involved with the Tech. I know there are cheaper offerings, but they are severely lacking the capabilities of the full blown players.
There is no doubt that the BD quality is awesome, but I have chosen to go with video on demand from amazon over my Tivo, and Netflix combined with my computers and xbox360. The picture and sound may not equal a BD movie, but the convenience and cost are right for me. |
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BF69
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN
| said by seangprice  :Blu-Ray is this Decades laser disc, my opinion of course. It costs to much for the average person to get involved with the Tech. I know there are cheaper offerings, but they are severely lacking the capabilities of the full blown players. There is no doubt that the BD quality is awesome, but I have chosen to go with video on demand from amazon over my Tivo, and Netflix combined with my computers and xbox360. The picture and sound may not equal a BD movie, but the convenience and cost are right for me. You can get a blu-ray player for $128 at wal-mart. And most people aren't videophiles they just want to watch movies and that's all they need. Stuff like BD-Live which requires a connection to the internet which if you don't have broadband is pretty useless even if it's something you want.
A $29 DVD palyer doesn't do much. Doesn't stop people from buying the low-end products. Are Vizios HQ TVs? Nope, but they sell the most. |
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dvd536
as Mr. Pink as they come
Premium
join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ
| said by BF69 :said by seangprice :Blu-Ray is this Decades laser disc, my opinion of course. It costs to much for the average person to get involved with the Tech. I know there are cheaper offerings, but they are severely lacking the capabilities of the full blown players. There is no doubt that the BD quality is awesome, but I have chosen to go with video on demand from amazon over my Tivo, and Netflix combined with my computers and xbox360. The picture and sound may not equal a BD movie, but the convenience and cost are right for me. You can get a blu-ray player for $128 at wal-mart. And most people aren't videophiles they just want to watch movies and that's all they need. Stuff like BD-Live which requires a connection to the internet which if you don't have broadband is pretty useless even if it's something you want. However there have been reports of the movie not playing if the profile isn't right so its not just always about the fluff on the disc!
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seangprice
join:2002-09-10
Coalville, UT
clubs: | You get what you pay for... You're right, you can get a cheap player, but the Media is still expensive and it might not work in all players. |
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sholling
Premium
join:2002-02-13
Hemet, CA
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said by dvd536 :However there have been reports of the movie not playing if the profile isn't right so its not just always about the fluff on the disc! Ancient history from the early days of the standard. Anybody with a current generation profile 1.1 player should be good to go. There are too many players out there now for any more major changes.
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BF69
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN
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said by dvd536 :said by BF69 :said by seangprice :Blu-Ray is this Decades laser disc, my opinion of course. It costs to much for the average person to get involved with the Tech. I know there are cheaper offerings, but they are severely lacking the capabilities of the full blown players. There is no doubt that the BD quality is awesome, but I have chosen to go with video on demand from amazon over my Tivo, and Netflix combined with my computers and xbox360. The picture and sound may not equal a BD movie, but the convenience and cost are right for me. You can get a blu-ray player for $128 at wal-mart. And most people aren't videophiles they just want to watch movies and that's all they need. Stuff like BD-Live which requires a connection to the internet which if you don't have broadband is pretty useless even if it's something you want. However there have been reports of the movie not playing if the profile isn't right so its not just always about the fluff on the disc! Ok first of all blu-ray should be able to play on all players. There were a few mistakes made and those movies were sent back. So that's a bogus reason. Also all the blu-ray players wal-mart sells are at least profile 1.1. Thirdly it's call firmware update. How else do you think a PS3 that is 3 years old can be profile 2.0? |
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C0deZer0
Oc'D To Rhythm And Police
Premium
join:2001-10-03
Davenport, FL
·Verizon FIOS
| said by BF69 :Ok first of all blu-ray should be able to play on all players. There were a few mistakes made and those movies were sent back. So that's a bogus reason. Also all the blu-ray players wal-mart sells are at least profile 1.1. Thirdly it's call firmware update. How else do you think a PS3 that is 3 years old can be profile 2.0? That and it was at least built with a programmable optical drive in mind.
How many profile 1.* stand-alone players out there haven't already been obsolesced because their internal firmware couldn't understand how to work with 2.0? or that the manufacturer has stopped supporting it with updates before it could understand 2.0 features and 2.0 DRM? How many people have had to basically return their brand new bluray players when a new Fox movie with brand new DRM won't play on their systems? I remember for a while, it seemed like every new Fox movie release had some new DRM that FUBAR'd like half the players on the market. And only the ps3 was able to actually keep up with the constant updates that required.
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BF69
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN
| said by C0deZer0 :said by BF69 :Ok first of all blu-ray should be able to play on all players. There were a few mistakes made and those movies were sent back. So that's a bogus reason. Also all the blu-ray players wal-mart sells are at least profile 1.1. Thirdly it's call firmware update. How else do you think a PS3 that is 3 years old can be profile 2.0? That and it was at least built with a programmable optical drive in mind. How many profile 1.* stand-alone players out there haven't already been obsolesced because their internal firmware couldn't understand how to work with 2.0? or that the manufacturer has stopped supporting it with updates before it could understand 2.0 features and 2.0 DRM? How many people have had to basically return their brand new bluray players when a new Fox movie with brand new DRM won't play on their systems? I remember for a while, it seemed like every new Fox movie release had some new DRM that FUBAR'd like half the players on the market. And only the ps3 was able to actually keep up with the constant updates that required. And those players would have been taken off the market and the issue with the FOX movies have been fixed. So are you bringing it up? |
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C0deZer0
Oc'D To Rhythm And Police
Premium
join:2001-10-03
Davenport, FL
·Verizon FIOS
| Yes, it might be resolved now, but what has been done to assure that another foul-up like it won't happen again? And has anything been done for all those that had been afflicted by these bad BD players and movies?
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BF69
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN
| said by C0deZer0 :Yes, it might be resolved now, but what has been done to assure that another foul-up like it won't happen again? You know you can say that about ANYTHING and everything in life. Does that stop you from buying those other things?
And has anything been done for all those that had been afflicted by these bad BD players and movies? A) Google is your friend
B) Really what does that have to do with anything? You obviously dont like blu-ray so fine whatever. You're just being nitpicky now to make your point. Just say you don't like it and be done with it.
A side benefit of blu-ray, DVD are priced lower than ever. Do you think they'd be that way if blu-ray didn't exist? Used to be on only movies you get in the $5 or less bargin bin at wal-mart were fullscreen DVD of 15-20-25 year old movies. Now you can get widescreen verisons of not to old movies. |
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dvd536
as Mr. Pink as they come
Premium
join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ
| said by BF69 :said by C0deZer0 :Yes, it might be resolved now, but what has been done to assure that another foul-up like it won't happen again? You know you can say that about ANYTHING and everything in life. Does that stop you from buying those other things? And has anything been done for all those that had been afflicted by these bad BD players and movies? A) Google is your friend B) Really what does that have to do with anything? You obviously dont like blu-ray so fine whatever. You're just being nitpicky now to make your point. Just say you don't like it and be done with it. A side benefit of blu-ray, DVD are priced lower than ever. Do you think they'd be that way if blu-ray didn't exist? Used to be on only movies you get in the $5 or less bargin bin at wal-mart were fullscreen DVD of 15-20-25 year old movies. Now you can get widescreen verisons of not to old movies. Widescreen blech!
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Its a Secret
Whatever
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join:2008-02-23
U B Funny | You wussy.  |
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mod_wastrel
join:2008-03-28
 ·magicjack.com
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said by BF69 :A side benefit of blu-ray, DVD are priced lower than ever. I used to go to Best Buy on a weekly basis for their $3.99 DVD sales--lots of good and popular movies (the good stuff). Now, they sometimes have $4.99 sales, but mostly it's $6.99 and $9.99. $3.99 sales there are few and far between. So, I don't buy as much stuff as I used to--still waiting for those good ol' $3.99 sale days. |
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Subaru
1-3-2-4
Premium
join:2001-05-31
Greenwich, CT
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·Packet8
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said by SKYHN :The main thing is seeing the difference, because it truly is amazing. But at the same time, everyones old SD tv still is functioning fine. I think within the next 2 years it should really take off. Agree.. I showed my mom something simple a full screen SD tv show and a HD tv show of the same program.. she said "It looks the same to me!"
I'm like you can't tell that it's not sharper? Maybe it's because my screen size is only 20.1"? maybe with the new 24" she might notice?
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BF69
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN
| said by Subaru :said by SKYHN :The main thing is seeing the difference, because it truly is amazing. But at the same time, everyones old SD tv still is functioning fine. I think within the next 2 years it should really take off. Agree.. I showed my mom something simple a full screen SD tv show and a HD tv show of the same program.. she said "It looks the same to me!" I'm like you can't tell that it's not sharper? Maybe it's because my screen size is only 20.1"? maybe with the new 24" she might notice? Is that a TV or monitor? And no at 20 inches or even 24 you're not going to see much difference. Was the "HD" blu-ray or "HD" off the internet or TV. Completely different animals. A "HD" download or even HD program off of TV can't compare to blu-ray. |
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wth
Premium
join:2002-02-20
Iowa City, IA | reply to Matt
New reg price $98? »www.geek.com/articles/gadgets/wa···0090713/ |
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dadkins
Can you do Blu?
Premium,MVM
join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA
 ·Comcast
| reply to Subaru
said by Subaru :said by SKYHN :The main thing is seeing the difference, because it truly is amazing. But at the same time, everyones old SD tv still is functioning fine. I think within the next 2 years it should really take off. Agree.. I showed my mom something simple a full screen SD tv show and a HD tv show of the same program.. she said "It looks the same to me!" I'm like you can't tell that it's not sharper? Maybe it's because my screen size is only 20.1"? maybe with the new 24" she might notice? How far away was she from the display?
Was it a 1080 capable display?
*IF* you are within the proper distance from the display, you CAN tell the difference.
If you are outside the ideal viewing distance, the difference becomes less noticable.
Ideally, for a 20" display(1080), 2.2 - 3 feet viewing distance is recommended... like sitting at a desk looking at a monitor
Standing behind a person at that desk - 4+ feet or more - that hoses the ability to reslove properly. 
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Subaru
1-3-2-4
Premium
join:2001-05-31
Greenwich, CT
clubs:
·Packet8
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said by BF69 :said by Subaru :said by SKYHN :The main thing is seeing the difference, because it truly is amazing. But at the same time, everyones old SD tv still is functioning fine. I think within the next 2 years it should really take off. Agree.. I showed my mom something simple a full screen SD tv show and a HD tv show of the same program.. she said "It looks the same to me!" I'm like you can't tell that it's not sharper? Maybe it's because my screen size is only 20.1"? maybe with the new 24" she might notice? Is that a TV or monitor? And no at 20 inches or even 24 you're not going to see much difference. Was the "HD" blu-ray or "HD" off the internet or TV. Completely different animals. A "HD" download or even HD program off of TV can't compare to blu-ray. I was using it as a example she's seen blueray in stores and still can't tell that it's better...
oh well
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normat
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join:2000-08-02
Boynton Beach, FL
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| I hate to stereotype but I've noticed many women don't seem to notice picture quality. Same with high quality audio also.
I'd often find my ex had turned off the subwoofer. Also she would often watch a SD channel when it was available in HD. |
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Subaru
1-3-2-4
Premium
join:2001-05-31
Greenwich, CT
clubs:
·Packet8
| said by normat :I hate to stereotype but I've noticed many women don't seem to notice picture quality. Same with high quality audio also. I'd often find my ex had turned off the subwoofer. Also she would often watch a SD channel when it was available in HD. I have seen this too.. And I know a few member who ordered a HD tv and have a HD cable box but still picks the SD feed for the channel when a HD channel is offered.
I can't stand a cropped 4:3 show on a HD feed.
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