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Rook008
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Re: Is Blu-Ray a Failure?

I Had a Sony that wouldn't even play PAL discs. And it was over $100 when I bought it.
But it's a Sony, it's supposed to be better, right? Right....
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said by Rook008 See Profile :

I Had a Sony that wouldn't even play PAL discs. And it was over $100 when I bought it.
But it's a Sony, it's supposed to be better, right? Right....
Sony's ps3 was supposed to receive an update that would allow playing PAL encoded discs that were not region-locked. Yet even in all of my testing and tryouts and the subsequent updates, that has yet to actually happen.

Conversely, the xbox 360 doesn't care and will play it no problem - with full extras and resolution.
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That reminds me, The Philips 5990, with a simple button pushing combination, become region free. Plays anything.

But anyway, I think Sony has made some small missteps with the PS3, but I hear it's a great Blu-Ray and DVD Player overall.
If I thought Blu-Ray was worth the price right now, the PS3 is the player I would get.
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said by Matt See Profile :

said by Rook008 See Profile :

Philips DVP 5990. Best DVD Player I've ever had. Plays every disc I've ever put in it, plus Movies on a USB Stick. Upconverts too. Had it for almost a year and never a problem with it. Bought it for around $40.
No kidding. I have a $49 DMTech that I bought 5 years ago that is still going strong. Plays all kinds of crazy formats too that my Sony (which was $299) won't.
If you paid $299 for a DVD player it had to be nearly 10 years ago thus you can't compare it because of course 10 year old technology is going to be obsolete.


normat
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said by Rook008 See Profile :

If I thought Blu-Ray was worth the price right now, the PS3 is the player I would get.
Careful about that. Game consoles make so much noise they can ruin a viewing experience. One reason I never used Netflix on my xbox 360.

I would use Netflix on my Blu-ray player but if given the choice a Blu-ray disk would be the first choice. I want True HD Audio, not stereo.


Matt
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said by normat See Profile :

said by Rook008 See Profile :

If I thought Blu-Ray was worth the price right now, the PS3 is the player I would get.
Careful about that. Game consoles make so much noise they can ruin a viewing experience. One reason I never used Netflix on my xbox 360.
That has been fixed on the 360 with the dashboard update released last year. I hear the PS3 is near silent anyway.


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said by Matt See Profile :

That has been fixed on the 360 with the dashboard update released last year. I hear the PS3 is near silent anyway.
Depends on the revision.

The original models (20/60 - a.k.a. the ones that were actually any good), were not silent, and depending how warm the room was, it can make the fans kick on.

The newer units (significantly neutered IMO by comparison) also benefit from the smaller manufacturing process and generate less heat to begin with. But combined with the added ventilation and cooling, are able to stay cooler easier, and thus not need full-speed airflow as much.
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I've seen people complain about the PS3 also but don't have first hand experience with the sound it produces in home.

My house is cool and I'm not sure about the revision of the xbox. I don't know how many decibels would register but for me it's more of the pitch the xbox makes. It grates on the nerves. When I really notice it is when it gets turned off and I get a feeling of relief. In contrast my central AC doesn't bother me at all.


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said by normat See Profile :

I've seen people complain about the PS3 also but don't have first hand experience with the sound it produces in home.

My house is cool and I'm not sure about the revision of the xbox. I don't know how many decibels would register but for me it's more of the pitch the xbox makes. It grates on the nerves. When I really notice it is when it gets turned off and I get a feeling of relief. In contrast my central AC doesn't bother me at all.
Yeah it is strange how that works. I wonder why that is where AC noise doesn't bother us but computer, dvd, and blu ray such devices can ?


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I've seen people complain about the PS3 also but don't have first hand experience with the sound it produces in home.

My house is cool and I'm not sure about the revision of the xbox. I don't know how many decibels would register but for me it's more of the pitch the xbox makes. It grates on the nerves. When I really notice it is when it gets turned off and I get a feeling of relief. In contrast my central AC doesn't bother me at all.
That is weird. I couldn't take it pre-Dashboard update, but now I don't notice it at all. People are sensitive to different pitches and frequencies though and honestly, it's too loud however you look at it.


Portmonkey
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I don't think it's a failure, but it's not as much of a success as I had thought it would be by now. I've stopped buying DVD movies and only buy Blu-Ray now, but because of cost I don't purchase as many movies. There's no way I could ever afford to replace all of my old DVD movies with Blu-Ray and still occasionally purchase new releases. A handful of my favorites will get replaced and I'll be very picky about new releases unless prices ever drop to what DVDs cost.

Other than cost, I worry about how fast things change. From 1999 till a few months ago I was fine with DVD but I'm not so sure Blu-Ray will last that long before something bigger and better comes along. With HDTVs coming out with 3D stuff, web capabilities, and plenty of other crap it looks like some of us will need to buy yet another TV if we want to join in on all the upcoming fun. Not sure how accurate the info is but I recently read about "Managed Copy" for making a copy of a Blu-Ray disc, which looks to require new hardware and only works with copy enabled discs.

Maybe when things settle down with cost and if features stop changing so often, more people will start buying Blu-Ray and it'll look to be more of a success.
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LOL... I had to google Aenima to realize what you're referring to!


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Honestly, as a bluray player and discs owner(PS3), and an HDTV(720p), the cost of the bluray discs is just too high. Your average bluray is $29.99, granted it high def. I do own many bluray movies, however, I've never paid full price. I only buy when they are on sale. That is my reasoning for not going out and buying a bunch.

And in terms of why it hasnt taken off yet as a whole, I think that the HDTV market is not exactly strong enough yet with people. Granted you walk into bestbuy and all you can buy is an HDTV now, you still have that large majority of people who do not have one and are not interested in it yet. I think its going to take a major push from all of the TV and movie companies to really get it going. The main thing is seeing the difference, because it truly is amazing. But at the same time, everyones old SD tv still is functioning fine. I think within the next 2 years it should really take off.
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normat
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Those older CRT TV sets last forever. The same can't be said for the newer technologies. They either don't last as long or become obsolete.


Matt
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said by normat See Profile :

Those older CRT TV sets last forever. The same can't be said for the newer technologies. They either don't last as long or become obsolete.
And a CRT doesn't become obsolete?


dadkins
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My CRT was way past it's days.
I replaced it with a nice 42" 1080p display.
No sense is replacing a 24" with another 24"(no CRTs) if there are a shitload of bigger and better HDTVs available, right?

HDMI and one of my BD laptops - think about it.
With the average life of a LCD at 40,000 to 50,000 hours... I'm ok for about 5 years of continuous use.
More if the set gets switched off occasionally.

Think I'll watch Transformers Blu-ray...
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normat
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said by normat See Profile :

Those older CRT TV sets last forever. The same can't be said for the newer technologies. They either don't last as long or become obsolete.
And a CRT doesn't become obsolete?
They had longer lifespans back in the day and I suspect there will be many in service for years to come.

Compare that to HD sets. There are never enough inputs, the HDMI spec is always getting upgraded. The bulk of the low end LCD panels have an inferior picture quality (though better than a SD set in most regards).

I just think people into HD TV will probably upgrade theirs sets a time or two while others will hold on to their 24" SD CRT for years to come.


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Yep, it's a big failure.

I have a Sony Blu-Ray player here at home and we rarely even use it.
So because you don't use it, it's a failure.

Right.


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I have 4 HDMI on my TV (Toshiba 540). How many do you need?
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