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Margolis
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Re: Windows Vista and RAm

said by Duchess44 See Profile :

Ok ty. I have someone trying to tell me that the recommended is 3gb. I thought my comp ran just fine..including playing WoW..
I can't comment on 3gb, but going from 2Gb to 4Gb of ram made a noticable improvement in WoW. But that is with vista 64 ultimate. With 32b vista, anything over 3Gb would be overkill though, do to the address limitations of 32bit. Video memory is also included in the total that can be addressed.

Another reason that some people go for 3Gb is that they are using a motherboard that uses triple channel memory, which means 3 sticks of ram. That makes 3Gb optimal. If your motherboard uses dual channel memory, then 2Gb makes sense, since there are no 1.5G memory sticks. As long as you are happy with the performance ignore the naysayers.


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Sweet! TYVM


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2 GB is fine (but more never hurts). Been running 2 GB here for a while on a gaming/web and graphic design machine and it runs good. Anyone that tells you 2 GB is not enough to "run" Windows Vista hasn't the slightest clue what they are talking about. Perhaps the people that are arguing with you are the type of morons that have 120 processes running in the background and wonder why their computer runs like shit. In any case, memory is cheap, so it wouldn't hurt to run more than 2 GB.
Oh I am going to get another 1gig, but I read somewhere that if you get more than that, you have to go to Vista 64-bit? True?


Duchess44
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said by Duchess44 See Profile :

Ok ty. I have someone trying to tell me that the recommended is 3gb. I thought my comp ran just fine..including playing WoW..
I can't comment on 3gb, but going from 2Gb to 4Gb of ram made a noticable improvement in WoW. But that is with vista 64 ultimate. With 32b vista, anything over 3Gb would be overkill though, do to the address limitations of 32bit. Video memory is also included in the total that can be addressed.

Another reason that some people go for 3Gb is that they are using a motherboard that uses triple channel memory, which means 3 sticks of ram. That makes 3Gb optimal. If your motherboard uses dual channel memory, then 2Gb makes sense, since there are no 1.5G memory sticks. As long as you are happy with the performance ignore the naysayers.
No, I am not very happy with the performance as it is. I asked because I needed to get the settings for the video tab ingame so that I could get a little better FPS. Then they started all this about my memory and video card being crap.

Margolis
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No, I am not very happy with the performance as it is. I asked because I needed to get the settings for the video tab ingame so that I could get a little better FPS. Then they started all this about my memory and video card being crap.
ok, what are your system specs? what kind of cpu? what video card? and what resolution?

More memory will not automatically give you higher fps. It will make the game run smoother when things get hairy though. But if you are having fps issues, it could be the cpu, or video card.


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ok, what are your system specs? what kind of cpu? what video card? and what resolution?

More memory will not automatically give you higher fps. It will make the game run smoother when things get hairy though. But if you are having fps issues, it could be the cpu, or video card.
Ok could you please tell me where I find such information to post?
I do know that my card is a ATI Radeon HD 2600 PRO with 512MB dedicated memory. And it is at 1440x900 resolution.


Duchess44
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K went to Crucial and visited their system checker and it said I need "DDR2 PC2 5300" memory. I visited Newegg and found these:
»www.newegg.com/Product/ProductLi···g&Page=1

Will they work? And which is best?

PS...I really do appreciate all the help guys

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Ok could you please tell me where I find such information to post?
I do know that my card is a ATI Radeon HD 2600 PRO with 512MB dedicated memory. And it is at 1440x900 resolution.
the video card is a big problem. the 2600 is not good enough to run at 1440x900 at a very high framerate. I would guess maybe 30fps tops, and dipping down into the teens if there is anything going on. And with a video card that old, I would guess that your cpu is also a bottleneck.

To find out your cpu, go to "control panel" and "system"

praetoralpha

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»www.cpuid.com/cpuz.php

Get CPUz and the memory tab will tell you what you have, its speed, how many empty RAM slots you have, and more stuff that anyone should probably have to know.


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said by Duchess44 See Profile :

Ok could you please tell me where I find such information to post?
I do know that my card is a ATI Radeon HD 2600 PRO with 512MB dedicated memory. And it is at 1440x900 resolution.
the video card is a big problem. the 2600 is not good enough to run at 1440x900 at a very high framerate. I would guess maybe 30fps tops, and dipping down into the teens if there is anything going on. And with a video card that old, I would guess that your cpu is also a bottleneck.

To find out your cpu, go to "control panel" and "system"
Ok it says "Intel Core 2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40GHz"

And, which vid card would you recommend? I can not spend a lot of money on it...perhaps between $100-$200


Duchess44
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Ok got it and it did say which kind I have, and it says slot #2 and #4 are empty, and #1 and #3 have memory installed.


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Duchess44, please keep in mind that when you do purchase your new ram, you need to replace the existng ram with new ram also.
So basically you need to purchase 4 gigs of new ram, not just 1 gig. Sure your system will probably run if you used the old ram, however you will have system stability issues.
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Duchess44, please keep in mind that when you do purchase your new ram, you need to replace the existng ram with new ram also.
So basically you need to purchase 4 gigs of new ram, not just 1 gig. Sure your system will probably run if you used the old ram, however you will have system stability issues.
»www.crucial.com/store/mpartspecs···A5CA7304

Ok then...if I get two of these...would it work? I mean, I believe I only need 3 gig total, right? Because if Iget the max 4 gig, I will have to get Vista 64 bit. And why is it SO much more expensive at Newegg...

»www.newegg.com/Product/ProductLi···er=PRICE


howie
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Vista will see about 3.5GB of 4GB installed in a 32-bit OS. I use 2-2048MB sticks with Vista 32-bit.
»www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a···20145184
It was less than $50 for 4GB of PC6400 DDR2 800Mhz. RAM.
If and when I install Vista or Win 7 64-bit, It'll use all 4GB. At some point, I'll probably add 4GB (2-2GB sticks) when I switch to a 64 bit OS.
If I were you, I'd just buy a kit with 2-2GB modules.

[EDIT] I don't know if your system can use 2GB modules. Hopefully someone here does....


imtim83
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reply to Duchess44
I have 8 GB of ram but suggest if your a gamer to have at least 4 GB of ram. Though 2 to 3 GB of ram could be enough always best to be safe than sorry sense ram is so cheap. I like to multitask a lot. If I want to keep my game open while encoding I can.


longstreet

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If you have 32 bit Vista, do not install more than 3 gig main memory.

If you decide you want more memory than 3 gig, you need to upgrade to 64 bit.


howie
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said by longstreet See Profile :

If you have 32 bit Vista, do not install more than 3 gig main memory.

If you decide you want more memory than 3 gig, you need to upgrade to 64 bit.
Why not? Although I'm not using all 4GB of installed memory, I am using about 3.5GB of it...


longstreet

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You have a graphics card right? 512 mb?

If you have 512mb graphics and 4 gig of ram . . .

500 gets addressed from the video and 3 gig of main memory gets addressed on top of that.

Totally addressed memory? == ~ 3.5 gig

You're wasting the last gig.

If you were using all of it, you'd see 4.5 gig addressed.


Duchess44
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said by longstreet See Profile :

If you have 32 bit Vista, do not install more than 3 gig main memory.

If you decide you want more memory than 3 gig, you need to upgrade to 64 bit.
Right. That's what I had read, but wanted to be sure of.


Duchess44
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said by longstreet See Profile :

You have a graphics card right? 512 mb?

If you have 512mb graphics and 4 gig of ram . . .

500 gets addressed from the video and 3 gig of main memory gets addressed on top of that.

Totally addressed memory? == ~ 3.5 gig

You're wasting the last gig.

If you were using all of it, you'd see 4.5 gig addressed.
Yes, I do have a card like that. So you are saying I should just the the 3 gig ram?
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