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Dodge
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Re: Women's Concealed Carry
at 5'2" and 100lbs, you have a pretty good chance of getting shot with your own gun after it's taken away from you. I am assuming you have it for defense, so if someone attacks you, you will have to get enough room to pull the gun, aim and shoot. Being so tiny I honestly don't see you wrigling free enough to effectively use a firearm. | |
Mr Neutron
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| said by Dodge  :at 5'2" and 100lbs, you have a pretty good chance of getting shot with your own gun after it's taken away from you. I am assuming you have it for defense, so if someone attacks you, you will have to get enough room to pull the gun, aim and shoot. Being so tiny I honestly don't see you wrigling free enough to effectively use a firearm. This is a semi-valid point. Please allow me to explain.
As another poster pointed out, once you've drawn a gun, you've decided that you will, very shortly, be taking a human life. And to be clear, under some circumstances, doing so is unavoidable.
The trick is to be aware of your surroundings and exercise enough caution so that, if possible, you avoid having to draw the weapon and waste perfectly good ammunition on some ding-dong.
In addition to the Glock, would it be possible for the OP to also take a women's self defense course? I don't know if such courses emphasize awareness and street smarts, but that's what I'm trying to get at here. That is, having awareness and street smarts can go a long way toward preventing you from needing to draw a weapon in the first place. However, nothing is infallible so, yes, you should by all means have a gun in case push comes to shove and you can't run/talk your way out of the situation.
With that said, the whole "the bad guys will just wrestle it away from you anyhow" argument is utter crap. I'm sorry, but when it comes right down to it, even half a chance of remaining alive and uninjured is better than none at all.
And that, after all, is probably why the OP's husband purchased that weapon for her: because he wants to give her the best chance possible for survival. I only suggest the women's self defense course as a way to improve those odds even further.
I agree that guns are not the end-all, be-all for self-defense, but I take issue with anyone who declares that someone else having a gun is a bad idea. That decision rests with that person and it's not up to you and I to decide what they should or should not have. With all due respect, it's their life on the line, not yours.
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Dodge
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| said by Mr Neutron :I agree that guns are not the end-all, be-all for self-defense, but I take issue with anyone who declares that someone else having a gun is a bad idea. That decision rests with that person and it's not up to you and I to decide what they should or should not have. With all due respect, it's their life on the line, not yours. I don't care if she has 10 guns and a bazooka on her person if she knows what she is doing, but that's a side argument anyways.
My original point is this: if she is attacked unexpectedly as most of the time is the case with robbery or rape (by attacked I mean it did not start as an argument), the gun is most likely not going to help her, since the attacker already has a jump on her.
The gun will help her against a cocky jack-ass who pulls a knife and demands money, but only if she is prepared to use it and then face the music of the "equal or lesser force" crap (which persoanlly I think is total bull). | |
Mr Neutron
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| said by Dodge :My original point is this: if she is attacked unexpectedly as most of the time is the case with robbery or rape (by attacked I mean it did not start as an argument), the gun is most likely not going to help her, since the attacker already has a jump on her. The gun will help her against a cocky jack-ass who pulls a knife and demands money, but only if she is prepared to use it and then face the music of the "equal or lesser force" crap (which persoanlly I think is total bull). I'm afraid I have a tough time with folks who attempt to second-guess self-defense scenarios that other people might find themselves in. You don't know under what exact set of circumstances someone might get jumped and whether they would/would not have a chance to pull a weapon.
I think we can agree that pulling a gun on someone is something that should only be done under the direst, most threatening of circumstances. The difference between us is that I don't see any reason why the OP should not have that option.
If you don't want to carry a weapon yourself, that's just fine. But can you please not begrudge other people that option? If this was your wife, I hope you wouldn't try to talk her out of carrying those "10 guns and a bazooka" you referred to if that's what she wanted to carry.
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