said by exocets_girl :

I'm not at all opposed to carrying on my person, in fact, it's quite appealing to me. I know it's probably the best/safest option... however, let's face it, there are DEFINITELY times where it will be literally impossible to carry on-body.

said by exocet_cm :

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now's the time to get him used to carrying it around for you.

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I already carry, both on and off duty

I might add something my wife didn't post originally, she can and has handled the 23 well at the range. She is becoming a better shot as she continues to practice with it. I definately have seen her improvement when she was shooting my off-duty 23.

A women's defense course is a good idea as well and she has expressed interest in it. My uncle, a sheriff's deputy for a neighboring parish teaches a women's defense course.

said by nickc50310 :

Its pretty much common sense. You can give a 100lb woman 20 years of martial arts training and put her up against one or two hardened thugs and she still wouldnt come out on top. Put a gun in her hand along with good training and situational awareness and she is far more likely to survive an attack.

I am a big guy. I used to work out and lift weights all the time (slackin these days). While I am a very nice guy I have been in quite a few fights since I was a kid (I never throw the first punch). I had a huge big brother beating me up most of my younger years. I know how to fight, and have had no training. One of my best friends is way smaller than me and has now been in ju jitsu and tae kwondo for several years. He is a high brown belt in tae kwon do and pretty high up in ju jitsu. Whenever we have messed around wrestling or light fighting or anything, he stands almost no chance and he still has not ever beat me.

Im definately not tough or anything, just using this as an example that self defense training, while helpful will not balance the odds as effectively as a gun.

said by SmackWeasel :

All you gotta do is grab, aim and fire. No extra steps to worry about.

said by ixNay :

The same goes with a glock. A little bit of training and familiarization with the firearm you decide to carry goes a long way!

said by battleop :

You forgot to list shooting your self by accident on you list of ridiculous reasons to own a revolver over a simi-auto.

said by SmackWeasel :

Whereas, I actually knew a dude that while dancing in a disco, blew the tip of his pecker off with a Llama 9mm auto tucked in his pants.

said by battleop :

I guess you missed what I was getting at. A revolver is not any better or worse than a loaded simi-auto pistol. Both can be carried ready to fire at a moments notice. The bonus on a simil-auto pistol is it's safety (except Glocks). If you can't think clear enough in a bad situation to remember the safety them maybe you are not thinking clear enough to use the pistol. If you practice, practice, practice, you will develop habits so that you don't have to "think" about the safety if such a time comes that you will need the firearm.

said by SmackWeasel :

Here's a search battleop:

»world.guns.ru/handguns/hg00-e.htm

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...the revolvers were more reliable, primarily, because of the simplicity of the design....No jams, no stoppages. Even in the case of the misfire you just got to pull the trigger again - and next round will go.

said by Ray422 :

I don't care what that article says, you better be careful believing that crap. Depends upon the type of mis-fire. If the primer fires, it leaves the bullet jammed in the barrel. The next shot blows the gun up...and maybe blinds or kills you.
In a panic-situation, you won't comprehend the meaning of a low-noise primer firing.

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said by SmackWeasel :
Edit: BTW, this should be an ADEQUATE carry for a 5-2 female.

said by SmackWeasel :

You should replace the Glock for a more reliable revolver*
Simi-auto's are to be hand held on the ready, or as back-up for a revolver.

You've probably never encountered a situation that calls for gun play. Remember once you pull it on someone, it's a do or die situation. Would you be able to retrieve the glock, cock it, aim and fire? What about the safety? Will you remember if it's engaged or not? It would be a bummer if the perp snatched it away from you as you fumbled with it.

Also alot of people get hurt thinking an auto is empty after removing the clip only to find one round still chambered...ouch!

*Smith & Wesson 38 special featherweight for example. All you gotta do is grab, aim and fire. No extra steps to worry about.

said by SmackWeasel :

Also as anyone who has owned a semi-auto knows; it takes a firm and steady trigger finger to keep the firing mechanism from jamming (Beretta the exception)

said by SmackWeasel :

- True I've never owned nor fired a Glock. I've owned a browning 9mm and a Smith and Wesson.45, I now own a Baretta 9mm.

- Although I have on occasion had a simi-auto jam on me because of a hesitant and unsteady trigger finger or through rapid firing of the weapon. I've learned to press firmly and count my shots to overcome this. I wonder what someone would do in a emergency situation.

said by Alakar :

Another point, modern semi-auto's do not use clips, they use magazines. The only semi-auto I can think of off-hand that did use clips was the Broom Handled Mauser.

said by Alakar :

Where exactly did you get this notion? I've been shooting for more then 30 years and have never heard of anything like this.

said by SmackWeasel :

You should replace the Glock for a more reliable revolver*
Simi-auto's are to be hand held on the ready, or as back-up for a revolver.

You've probably never encountered a situation that calls for gun play. Remember once you pull it on someone, it's a do or die situation. Would you be able to retrieve the glock, cock it, aim and fire? What about the safety? Will you remember if it's engaged or not? It would be a bummer if the perp snatched it away from you as you fumbled with it.

Also alot of people get hurt thinking an auto is empty after removing the clip only to find one round still chambered...ouch!

*Smith & Wesson 38 special featherweight for example. All you gotta do is grab, aim and fire. No extra steps to worry about.

said by SmackWeasel :

You should replace the Glock for a more reliable revolver*
Simi-auto's are to be hand held on the ready, or as back-up for a revolver.

You've probably never encountered a situation that calls for gun play. Remember once you pull it on someone, it's a do or die situation. Would you be able to retrieve the glock, cock it, aim and fire? What about the safety? Will you remember if it's engaged or not? It would be a bummer if the perp snatched it away from you as you fumbled with it.

Also alot of people get hurt thinking an auto is empty after removing the clip only to find one round still chambered...ouch!

*Smith & Wesson 38 special featherweight for example. All you gotta do is grab, aim and fire. No extra steps to worry about.

said by Dodge :

at 5'2" and 100lbs, you have a pretty good chance of getting shot with your own gun after it's taken away from you. I am assuming you have it for defense, so if someone attacks you, you will have to get enough room to pull the gun, aim and shoot. Being so tiny I honestly don't see you wrigling free enough to effectively use a firearm.

said by Mr Neutron :

I agree that guns are not the end-all, be-all for self-defense, but I take issue with anyone who declares that someone else having a gun is a bad idea. That decision rests with that person and it's not up to you and I to decide what they should or should not have. With all due respect, it's their life on the line, not yours.

said by Dodge :

My original point is this: if she is attacked unexpectedly as most of the time is the case with robbery or rape (by attacked I mean it did not start as an argument), the gun is most likely not going to help her, since the attacker already has a jump on her.

The gun will help her against a cocky jack-ass who pulls a knife and demands money, but only if she is prepared to use it and then face the music of the "equal or lesser force" crap (which persoanlly I think is total bull).

said by Ivan :

nothing sexier than a woman with a shoulder holster

said by cowboyro :

Personally I think that a G23 is a bit big and heavy for a small person (I own a G23). Maybe look into something smaller...

said by exocets_girl :

Thanks! I came across the website for thunderwear, but wasn't sure if they were really that great... glad to hear someone has seen them at a show!

I really love the glock 27... but they were backordered all across southeast louisiana, so I ended up going with the 23.

said by Mad Mac :

I'm impressed that we've got this far without a single 'weapon' joke.....