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ameritech
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Re: Questions about SSID broadcasting.

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change it as soon as Broadcast turned off
I assume this is a mis-type and you are not really recommending the so called "disable SSID broadcast" so may clueless router vendors include in their products?
I am, and so is most of this thread. I still believe that it cannot be the sole form of security, however it can be useful if used in conjunction with WPA2 , MAC Addr. filtering, and DHCP address limiting.
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Anav
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What farcical advice. Please don't post here if you have no clue how wifi works please ameritech.


fonzbear2000
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Well, depending on what people say in the thread I just started: »There are a TON of "found attack from" on my security log! , I may just rely on WPA encryption since a lot of people use that and seem to be doing just fine.
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said by fonzbear2000 See Profile :

Well, depending on what people say in the thread I just started: »There are a TON of "found attack from" on my security log! , I may just rely on WPA encryption since a lot of people use that and seem to be doing just fine.
Well, 2 people responded and said it wasn't a concert so I guess I'm not going to worry too much about it.
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docrice

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The Wi-Fi access point component of your home router bridges client connections to your internal network, not to the external interface drop on your router. Those ICMP probes you see on the external interface isn't directly relevant to how you configure link-layer connectivity and security for your home.

The general consensus in Wi-Fi / 802.11 security for the common household is this: WPA2-PSK (using CCMP / AES) with a 20+ character, randomly-generated passphrase, preferably 63 to utilize the entire "key space," so to speak.

»https://www.grc.com/passwords.htm

If any of your clients or potential clients (such as friends with really old laptops) might not support WPA2-capable hardware, then WPA-PSK via TKIP / RC4 is your next best option.

If you want to layer on the "security through obscurity" tricks (which amount to paper-thin armor equivalent), then MAC address filtering, "non-standard" IP spaces, are options, although almost no one recommends them for good reason.


F430

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reply to ameritech
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I am, and so is most of this thread.
Actually besides you and one or two people new to wireless no one who understands how wireless works has recommend disabling SSID broadcast in this thread.

quote:
in conjunction with WPA2 , MAC Addr. filtering, and DHCP address limiting.
Is your WPA PSK that bad that you have to resort to tricks? How about you set a good WPS PSK and forget the remaining tricks.


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As a wireless hacker myself, turning off the SSID does absolutely nothing for security.

A strong WPA password is the way to go. Also making sure your pc's dont connect to any available network in range option is unchecked.
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said by DaMaGeINC See Profile :

Also making sure your pc's dont connect to any available network in range option is unchecked.
Where would that be located?
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DaMaGeINC
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In your wireless properties. Advanced somewhere

munky99999
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said by fonzbear2000 See Profile :

No benefit? To me a HUGE benefit would be that outsiders wouldn't be able to pick up my network signal and try to hack my network. If I do decide to do this, what is the SSID key and how do I manually enter it?
Actually hiding your broadcast generally has a NEGATIVE benefit.

1. Adminstrative. You essentially have more trouble in getting your computers connected. Connecting by clicking from a list vs manually inserting all the details...

2. From a cracker's point of view... we can see you even with you not broadcasting. Then it becomes a question... What are you trying to hide? Also more fun and a challenge to crack you.
IOW by not broadcasting... you are attracting the crackers.


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Where would that be located?
It's generally called 'ad-hoc networks' and should be located in your wireless utility, including the Windows wireless version.
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DaMaGeINC
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What does Ad-Hoc have to do with anything?


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said by DownTheShore See Profile :

said by DaMaGeINC See Profile :

Also making sure your pc's dont connect to any available network in range option is unchecked.
Where would that be located?
Uh, in response to DTS...
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