me1212
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That would mean more competition which is a good thing. And if sprint got the iphone I would get it, maybe even verizon. |
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Neyland
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said by me1212  :That would mean more competition which is a good thing. And if sprint got the iphone I would get it, maybe even verizon. I also think the AT&T exclusivity agreement should be scrapped. AT&T has done a piss poor job of supporting the device and Apple would open the door to 100 million or so new untapped customers on the Verizon/Sprint network. |
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How is it possible at all that apple would make more money with one carrier? Look at BB, they are with everyone, and extremely popular.
Apple should be ashamed that they signed an exclucivity deal; its completely unlike the company to let the people that want their product, not have it |
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said by Neyland :Do we know when the negotiations are due to be over? Officially, July 2010. We should know more about any agreements in the months before that. |
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me1212
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Pleasant Hill, MO | reply to Matt
Yup I would get it on ether. That said, I would like verizon more because I have been up on wimax vs LTE and right now wimax can do speeds up to 3m, but LTE can do 100m/50m with pings as low as 10ms. |
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I agree.
I still think that manufacturing (chipset) would have to kick it up a notch, as there is no CDMA based iPhone anywhere.
T-Mobile 'could' get an iPhone if Apple has a flexible radio for AWS 3G, otherwise its just a 2G version
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1 edit | said by en102 :I agree. I still think that manufacturing (chipset) would have to kick it up a notch, as there is no CDMA based iPhone anywhere. T-Mobile 'could' get an iPhone if Apple has a flexible radio for AWS 3G, otherwise its just a 2G version I don't think they'll release a CDMA version. I fully expect Apple to bend AT&T over right now and then stab them in the back on the exclusivity agreement when Verizon and AT&T migrate to LTE. Verizon is saying 2010 for LTE to become available, that's only 6 to 18 months away ...
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Another 12-18 months would be a perfect time to release a new iPhone that has been designed for GSM/LTE. Just in time for the Christmas season but plenty of time for the 3GS to make money -- it's not like the 3GS is THAT different from the 3G, so I doubt there was a huge R&D cost. |
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clubs: | That's my thinking as well and reason for not upgrading to 3GS yet. If Verizon can get a LTE iPhone they would win back many customers on AT&T. |
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Just me chillin
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But LTE doesn't carry voice it only carries data. It's a pure data play right now just like Wimax is. If Apple made an LTE iPhone for Verizon it would need to include a CDMA radio as well for voice. |
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me1212
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RadioDoc
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Apple got greedy and VZW told them to take a hike. Pretty typical for them, actually. |
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said by Matt :Another 12-18 months would be a perfect time to release a new iPhone that has been designed for GSM/LTE. I'm not completely familiar w/ LTE--is it an evolutionary step to 1x/EVDO, meaning that an LTE device can fall back to those earlier modes?
If not, then it doesn't seem like a GSM/LTE hybrid would be a magic bullet for VZ as it would require them to switch on LTE networks in a massive number of territories within a very short amount of time--or else be seen as offering only a tiny footprint for iPhone 4G users to operate within.
GSM/LTE makes more sense for AT&T however as when 4G is not available the device could at the very worst fall back to 2G. |
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They'd have to deploy 1x/EVDO/LTE. for voice and coverage.
EVDO Rev A / LTE would actually be possible (VoIP all the way), but I don't suspect that everything is quite mature enough yet. 18 months from now - it may be.
It is in Apple's best interest to play the game, and tease AT&T until they have another carrier that works with Apple's chipset. Since Apple doesn't have CDMA or UMTS on AWS, AT&T is the only carrier in the country that 'can' use the iPhone.
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Correction: 130 million customers. Verizon is HUGE, and Sprint isn't too small either.
But yes, I'd LOVE to see someone other than AT&T carrying the iPhone.
Though my unlocked first-gen iPhone seems to perform decently on the voice/text side (less than stellar with data at the moment) on a local carrier's EDGE network (Five Star Wireless). Five bars...everywhere. |
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Verizon is saying 8-12 Mbps down on LTE. 100/50 is in labs. Just like WiMAX is 70 Mbps...in labs n 20MHz channels.
Still, heckuva lot better than 1-2 Mbps on HSPA. EvDO can work just as quickly as the iPhone's current HSPA setup FWIW, so i wouldn't mind a CDMA EvDO iPhone without the LTE... |
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iansltx
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Golden, CO | reply to bemis
LTE is a totally new tech. It isn't backward compatible with anything unless you put another "old" radio in the phone. |
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I would like to see it come to Verizon but Verizon would have to get a much better data plan. 60 bucks for 5 gig is a joke. I wanted data on my new enV Touch until I saw the price... Even the lower tier is pretty lame. 40 bucks for 250mb. I'll pass thanks.
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VansHSI
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They may yeah but Verizon won't. The anonymous poster above is correct. |
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said by Just me chillin :
But LTE doesn't carry voice it only carries data. It's a pure data play right now just like Wimax is. If Apple made an LTE iPhone for Verizon it would need to include a CDMA radio as well for voice.
LTE was designed to be an AIPN or All IP Network. They'd simply utilize VoIP or some derivative. |
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