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Chiyo
Save Me Konata-Chan
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join:2003-02-20
Minneapolis, MN
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·Comcast

only if you live next door to the CO?

So I remember when the 7mbps came out but I couldn't get it because I was too far. The best I could get was 1.5 at the time and I recentlly checked and still can only get 1.5.

Do you need to pitch a tent right outside the CO to get the 40megs?
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robl27
Premium
join:2008-07-16
Mary Esther, FL
if this is fiber, it should be ok. similar to cable. watch it will take forever for the rest of us to see speeds + pricing like this!

-Rob


en102
Canadian, eh?

join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA
reply to Chiyo
VDSL2+ should be able to give you ~40Mbps up to a decent distance (~3000'). I'm assuming that Qwest is deploying RT's near the each breakout box.


Smith6612
Premium
join:2008-02-01
united state
·Dish Network
·Verizon Online DSL
·FrontierNet Intern..

reply to Chiyo
Next to the CO if I know the specs of VDSL2 correctly will give you over 100Mbps of possible sync rate at least on the download side
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jinjimbob
Troy Mcclure

join:2001-11-13

reply to Chiyo
said by Chiyo See Profile :

Do you need to pitch a tent right outside the CO to get the 40megs?
No that is just plain silly. They are actually going allow people to live in their COs.

People would get a big speed jump if they just connected the RTs with fibre from the COs.


dvd536
as Mr. Pink as they come
Premium
join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ

reply to Chiyo
said by Chiyo See Profile :

Do you need to pitch a tent right outside the CO to get the 40megs?
You can but you could STILL be 4000+ WIRE FEET from the CO.
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When I gez aju zavateh na nalechoo more new yonooz tonigh molinigh - Ken Lee


dvd536
as Mr. Pink as they come
Premium
join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ

reply to robl27
said by robl27 See Profile :

if this is fiber, it should be ok. similar to cable. watch it will take forever for the rest of us to see speeds + pricing like this!
Unlike Cox cable, these aren't the "out the door" prices. add about another $20/mo for the unfees.
and you'll also STILL be giving up 15% of your bandwidth on tired old pppoe overhead[on the 40/20 plan you'll give up 6mbps downstream and 3mbps upload assuming you're one of the handful of people that can GET IT]
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When I gez aju zavateh na nalechoo more new yonooz tonigh molinigh - Ken Lee

patcat88

join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY

reply to jinjimbob
said by jinjimbob See Profile :

No that is just plain silly. They are actually going allow people to live in their COs.
Will you have to be registered as a CLEC with the state PUC if you want to sleep in the CO?


uid1307457
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join:2005-12-30
Tempe, AZ
·Qwest.net
·Convergent Interne..
·DIRECTV


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reply to Chiyo
said by Chiyo See Profile :

So I remember when the 7mbps came out but I couldn't get it because I was too far. The best I could get was 1.5 at the time and I recentlly checked and still can only get 1.5.

Do you need to pitch a tent right outside the CO to get the 40megs?

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alchav

join:2002-05-17
Palm Desert, CA
·Pacific Bell - SBC

 reply to Chiyo
said by Chiyo See Profile :

So I remember when the 7mbps came out but I couldn't get it because I was too far. The best I could get was 1.5 at the time and I recently checked and still can only get 1.5.

Do you need to pitch a tent right outside the CO to get the 40megs?
Remember this is old Copper, and it's not only distance but condition too. This Copper goes back 30-40+ years ago, and it was laid primarily for Telephone Service. Then DSL came along and High Speed Broadband was born. This Copper had to be conditioned for the higher speeds. Then VDSL came and everyone said, oh great we can use existing Copper, but this was not all true. All this existing Copper had to be conditioned or replaced for VDSL, and the Beancounters said no problem but there was a big problem. Now Technology has moved on and speeds have gone crazy, this old existing Copper will not support the needed demand.


ross96
VIP
join:2000-11-02
Dayton, OH
Actually even older in some instances. I'm 1900' from an AT&T Vrad on copper that was placed in the 1950's and guess what.....I sync at 55Mbps! using VDSL, VDSL2 would be even better. It can and is being done.


RMKyote

join:2000-12-21
Beverly Hills, CA
·Qwest.net
·ViaTalk

reply to Chiyo
I live 3300 feet from the CO (I can see it from my house - not Russia though) and they can barely give me 4.3Mbps down now (should have 7Mbps). Had 10/10 with SprintION in 1998-2001 on the same copper. That was a DSL service!! So this "new" product will have to have some major new technology or these guys are going to have to get off their collective butts and start providing AND move TS back to the U.S.


Chiyo
Save Me Konata-Chan
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Minneapolis, MN
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·Comcast

said by RMKyote See Profile :

I live 3300 feet from the CO (I can see it from my house - not Russia though) and they can barely give me 4.3Mbps down now (should have 7Mbps). Had 10/10 with SprintION in 1998-2001 on the same copper. That was a DSL service!! So this "new" product will have to have some major new technology or these guys are going to have to get off their collective butts and start providing AND move TS back to the U.S.
Holy cow 10/10 in 1998 must of been so bad ass
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RMKyote

join:2000-12-21
Beverly Hills, CA
·Qwest.net
·ViaTalk

Not only 10/10, which consistently showed 10Mbps in speed tests and not this 60-80% BS, but Four (4) Digital Phone Lines, and the Modem/Adapter had its own built in battery back up and NO SERVICE TROUBLE for the whole time I had it. Tech Support would call me up to see how I was doing and chat. I think they were as lonely as the Maytag Repairman.

I thought that was what DSL was. Until they were forced out of business by, you know who, Qwest. It was easier (cheaper) for them to quit instead of fight for their right of way. Then all that was left was this ADSL garbage, that when I asked of Qwest TS the other day why there was still a DL/UL speed difference, which I was told, "no one wants to upload". THEN the next day I received a letter telling me all about the new "2Gb Storage" that Qwest now has available for each on the machines on my network. Hmmm, no one wants to upload. I wrote back the the person that told me no upload and have yet to hear back.

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