jfmezei
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Re: Status of 2008-108 Throttling Review and Vary
Campaign for democratic media's submission: (by CIPPIC) |
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R0CKY
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said by jfmezei  :Bell's submission. (I created a .PDF from their proprietary microsoft document). Interesting/Funny statements made in sections 18 & 21...
This smells of a bully trying to say, no take-backs, double stampsies! LOL
They have bad arguments and feel out of arrogance that they shouldn't have to justify how they've abused their responsibility as a Monopoly and errors in judgement could have been made by the CRTC!
Oish.... Ok, I'm done commenting on this... for now.
Rocky
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jfmezei
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The submission from the Union des Consommateurs.
It is in french.
Update:
First part is about the Charter of Rights and Freedoms which the Union alleges is violated by crippling P2P communications. |
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Stand up n shout
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said by R0CKY :Oish.... Ok, I'm done commenting on this... No. Let it out!
+1 for Distributel. Well done.
Now to read the rest... |
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jfmezei
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| I am disapointed by Bell's submission. I was expecting it to have a lot more meat.
It makes me wonder if Bell has admitted defeat, or whether there is one sentence in there that will be key and force CRTC to continue to support Bell.
Perhaps it is the sentence(s) that was "abridged" out of the public record: "If you force us to stop throttling, we won't invite you to golf tournaments anymore"
Seriously though Bell's overly simplistic response worries me. |
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jfmezei
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1 edit | Comments from the Canadian Film and Television Production Association (CFTPA).
The second attachement contains a smaller file name that has the .PDF extension which appears to have been trunctated when the first one was uploaded to this DSLR software. |
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psst
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| said by jfmezei :Comments from the Canadian Film and Television Production Association (CFTPA). Psst, the "extension" (*.pdf) is missing (people should be able to figure this out... but just in case). |
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stop sign
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said by jfmezei :I am disapointed by Bell's submission. I was expecting it to have a lot more meat. It makes me wonder if Bell has admitted defeat, or whether there is one sentence in there that will be key and force CRTC to continue to support Bell. Stall tactic. |
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Guspaz
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Wow. Misery acquaints a man with strange bedfellows. The television and film industry, against throttling of P2P... |
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Disillusioned
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As per the Bell's redacted reply at paragraph 18 of "# of the total base of end-users"
I would like to know what they are including in the "total base of end-users". Does it include all their Internet services or only broadband through the copper fed CO facilities? Does it include or exclude dial-up, wifi, smart phone clients? Is it only residential or does it include business accounts? If it is "total" base, I would think that some of the large corporations that Bell provides for would consume huge amounts of data transfer. |
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spotted
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Your postings have made it on the Dr. Geist website and p2pnet:
»www.michaelgeist.ca/content/view/4082/196/
»www.p2pnet.net/story/23941
Thanks for keeping us all in the loop.
P2PNet points to a submission from the Canadian Film and Television Production Association that argues that Bell's throttling practices unduly disadvantage P2P content, P2P apps, and end-users accessing legal P2P content. |
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jfmezei
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There is a newcomer to the review and vary. Didn't get a copy by email.
And CRTC had added the CFPTA to the web site and it seems to be gone now.
The CISP submission doesn't discuss throttling at all. However, it does provide soem advise on allowing ISPs access to the CO where they can connect to the region's DSLAMS and which would then remove from the ILEC the need to "traffic manage" the network because independant,s traffic would leave Bell's network at the CO. |
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jfmezei
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Beaconsfield, QC | Am working on the Bell reply. It may have been short, but when one reads it carefully, it is quite smart.
Hey Mr Deadpool, if you speak to your buddy Mr Bibic, tell him that I think he has earned his salary at Bell. |
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jfmezei
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| Last night was the deadline for the final comments on the R&V for throttling.
The CAIP et Al document followed by mine. (not too happy about mine) |
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Be happy
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| TY or posting that JF.
If anymore come your way, please do post.
Also, even if you are not happy with your reply (I haven't read it yet, but will now), I think you tried more than anyone else (associations aside) and had a very deep passion in what was pulled on everyone. You were, and are, a voice of a thousand people easy.
So no matter what, you did your very best to bring it all together and present it on behalf of everyone.
Be proud and be happy.
Thanks for all your effort. I for one appreciate what you have done and thank you.
Reading time now. |
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CAIP's submission is good.
The only thing that I would have liked to see is at the end for the CRTC to:
- Issue an order mandating removal of DPI capabilities from the GAS links
Throttling is only one aspect of the evils of DPI - while currently it's the most obvious, removal of throttling does not protect our privacy, or protect us from other nasties down the road. jf touched on this in his submission.
jf - don't be too hard on yourself - CAIP's submission had a team of people working on it. Without being a paid lobbyist, there is only so much time you can spend. You did well for yourself! |
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R0CKY
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Just finished reading your submission JF.... good work. Between both submissions, I believe just about everything possible has been covered! |
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liked it
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| Yup. I liked Vaxinations/JF's submission.
Very easy to read. Very easy to understand. Very good points brought forth.
I don't see how the CRTC can ignore them (again).
Very well done.
It goes a bit deeper and IN YOUR FACE type thing which CAIP's doesn't do (CAIP's is more "reserved/refined").
I liked it. |
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MaynardKrebs
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join:2009-06-17 | Kudos to JF & CAIP.
JF, excellent disassembly of the Sympatico 'straw man'.
Also, in your paragraph 32, I would have added that this practice probably an offence under the Criminal Code .... but that's just me talking. |
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mouser
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I liked both submissions, but I have to disagree with the point the CAIP makes in mentioning that UBB being used as an alternative to throttling... that could bite them back in future submissions related to tarrif's |
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