jmycknshk
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join:2004-07-02
West Chester, PA | gee, ya think...
...it has anything to do with FIOS? |
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me1212
join:2008-11-20
Pleasant Hill, MO | I would not be surprised. |
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JSRoman
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join:2005-03-10
Callahan, FL
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No it doesn't. If you haven't noticed people have been losing their jobs left and right for last couple of months and forclosures are up not down so not a lot of cable installs in brand new developements. Fios footprint is also miniscule compared to Comcast
No tv or radio in your house?
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Kendall, FL | reply to jmycknshk
said by jmycknshk  :...it has anything to do with FIOS? No. |
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said by jmycknshk :...it has anything to do with FIOS? You should pay attention and read:
"We’re really not seeing a surging of disconnects," notes Roberts. "We’re just not seeing a surging of orders,”
If it were FiOS, they'd be attributing the slowdown to an increase in disconnects. not a slowdown in orders. |
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ptrowski
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join:2005-03-14
Putnam, CT
clubs: | While I doubt FIOS is the huge factor, I am sure it is not helping any as people move into the areas served by both. Aint competition grand? |
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wifi4milez
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said by jmycknshk :...it has anything to do with FIOS? Nope.
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jt4
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i dont think its fios because it not in that many comcast markets. i think alot of people are going with slower hsi service. like 3mb instead of 6 or 12 depending on where you live. |
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ITALIAN926
join:2003-08-16
Stratford, CT
1 edit | nope, no, nope, no, nope.
Verizon is adding 300,000 video subs every quarter and you guys think this isnt affecting Comcast. Obviously you all have tons of common sense. I guess they arent affecting ANY cable company in this matter.
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fiberguy
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join:2005-05-20
| Yea... as did AT&T U-Verse and while they were adding a ton of customers, you think it slowed Comcast down then? no..
Seriously, this mentality that it's "Down with cable" or "Down with Comcast" is childish and fanboy at best.
As it's been said, the economy is in the hole.. further, you don't think people might be chose satellite? You think they may be choosing to go with out?
The fact they aren't LOSING customers yet aren't GAINING customers means this is just echoing the economic slow down..
FiOS is not king.. FiOS is not God.. and FiOS is not the end of all.. Besides, how do you know that FiOS wouldn't be adding more than just 300,000 subs? |
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ITALIAN926
join:2003-08-16
Stratford, CT
1 edit | How simple minded can you be? Even if FiOS took away ONE Comcast customer, that is hurting Comcasts revenue's ; is it not !?
The actual reality of the situation is that its not ONE its THOUSANDS of subscribers Comcast is losing to FiOS... and Comcast would be posting much bigger video subscriber growth right now had FiOS not existed. |
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fiberguy
My views are my own.
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join:2005-05-20
| Simple minded? hahahahah.. shut up.
Anyway.. no.. it's not "thousands".. did you not read? Comcast lost no customers.. they're not gaining.. you can't "lose" what you "don't have".... and you talk about simple minded.
You also talk about "losing to FiOS"... how do you know they are not being "lost" to Satellite ... or simply never there to begin with? ... you don't. Again, if you haven't figured it out, there are people that are simply NOT BUYING...
And the next time you start a message with an insult, why don't you remember the words of Dick Cheney and go F*ck yourself. The insults are getting old! |
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ITALIAN926
join:2003-08-16
Stratford, CT
| Thanks for supplying more evidence to my accusations. Youre saying Comcast has not lost a single customer to FiOS now.
HAHAHAHAHAHA
There are thousands of FiOS technicians replacing Comcast STB's and modems every day in favor of the FiOS brand. FiOS is adding 300k video subs every quarter and youre implying these customers are all on rabbit ears !
I dont care what the article says. It is a quaranteed FACT that Comcast is LOSING CUSTOMERS to FiOS. Whatever numbers Comcast is posting every quarter would be greatly improved if FiOS did not exist. |
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fiberguy
My views are my own.
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join:2005-05-20 | Hey fanboi,
When you take a lesson in math, come talk.. until then.. there is no point in this. |
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ITALIAN926
join:2003-08-16
Stratford, CT
2 edits | Now thats pretty funny telling me I need math lessons. Incredibly ironic.
Heres YOUR first lesson.
If Comcast says they broke even this quarter .. no gains or losses .... They would have actually GAINED customers had FiOS not existed. Especially in this timeframe with the digital conversion on June 12th . These cable companies should be making a KILLING in subscriber growth !
How the hell do you not see this as a loss? FiOS is TAKING AWAY their subscriber growth !
Would you mind sending me your annual rate increases in your salary? I'll email you my home address. I mean, you dont think losing your potential gains are a loss. LOL.
Nice conversatin' with ya.. |
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k1ll3rdr4g0n
join:2005-03-19
Homer Glen, IL
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said by ITALIAN926 :nope, no, nope, no, nope. Verizon is adding 300,000 video subs every quarter and you guys think this isnt affecting Comcast. Obviously you all have tons of common sense. I guess they arent affecting ANY cable company in this matter. :rolleyes: Apparently you must live a different universe. In this universe ISPs hold a tight monopoly over an area. I would love to get Verizon FiOS, but I can't because of my Comopoly. I really doubt that Verizon is deploying FiOS in the same areas as Comcast. In fact I believe they can't due to specific agreements with different towns. And yes, you are right, common sense tells us this really isn't affecting any ISP as of yet due to the monopoly/duopolies that ISPs hold over an area. Sure, it makes customers think about buying a service, and due the economy if they know that another ISP exists out there that is better then they make hold out until the better ISP comes around if they don't already have HSI.
Btw, you don't have to repeat yourself, we can hear you loud and clear the first time  . |
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jmycknshk
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join:2004-07-02
West Chester, PA
| I really doubt that Verizon is deploying FiOS in the same areas as Comcast. In fact I believe they can't due to specific agreements with different towns.
actually, around philly and the surrounding areas, many people now have the choice of both. we just switched from comcastic to fios.
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k1ll3rdr4g0n
join:2005-03-19
Homer Glen, IL
| said by jmycknshk : I really doubt that Verizon is deploying FiOS in the same areas as Comcast. In fact I believe they can't due to specific agreements with different towns.
actually, around philly and the surrounding areas, many people now have the choice of both. we just switched from comcastic to fios. Interesting, but I think that generally they wont start competition. In any case, I still consider the different ISPs a monopoly because they don't line share like with telecos. I can go where ever I want for phone or DSL service, but broadband over coax? Or broadband over fiber? I can dream can't I? |
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fiberguy
My views are my own.
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join:2005-05-20
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IF THEY NEVER HAD THE CUSTOMER, THEN IT WASN'T THEIR'S TO LOSE IN THE FIRST PLACE!
Any court of law is going to tell you that you can't be paid on potential gains.. I think that high up in our land will dictate the same through out.. Who's to say they lost them to FiOS? How do you know they weren't not gained by the dish providers?
It's not a "loss" becuase there was nothing gained.. AND, since the whole economy is on a down turn together, not many people are gaining at all anyway.. FURTHER.. if EVERYONE is at a down turn, and Comcast stayed flat, maybe they DID gain.. maybe they staved off losses which IS a gain..
Stop with the fanboi arguments.. they don't work. I know you want to hate comcast and cable in general.. good for you.. shout it from a mountain top.. but to sit here and try to tell me I'm wrong at the same time of you simply saying so.. well, I can't help you.
YOU CAN'T LOSE WHAT YOU DON'T HAVE!
You want to simply see it your way.. that's fine for you.. but the rest of the world will see it for what it is.. YOU CAN'T LOSE WHAT YOU DON'T HAVE!
I swear... I'd go on, but the mods would remove this post! |
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ITALIAN926
join:2003-08-16
Stratford, CT
2 edits | When a Verizon tech went into someones house last month.. removed a Comcast cable modem and 3 set-top boxes, that wasnt a LOSS for Comcast? Interesting.
This didnt happen once though. It happened a thousand times. Last quarter Vz added 300k video subs. According to you, Comcast didnt lose any customers or any other cable company for that matter, please tell me where these 300k subscribers came from. Actually... dont... because this is just a glass half empty or half full argument.
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