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ddg4005
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join:2001-08-22
Bronx, NY
·Verizon Online DSL

Verizon & place-shifting

This is the reason I want Fios instead of Cablevision's triple play. The future of broadband, in my opinion, won't revolve around just more speed but versatility. What will cable networks be capable of offering going forward besides increased speeds? Verizon's fiber optic network looks like it'll handle speed upgrades, place-shifting, and a lot more.
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NPGMBR

join:2001-03-28
Arlington, VA

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Whats "Place-shifting"? This is an honest qustion. I've never heard of it!


jmn1207
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join:2000-07-19
Reston, VA
·Verizon FIOS

reply to ddg4005
It seems that Comcast and Time Warner are certainly looking into providing similar services.

»'Free' Comcast TV Coming To Fancast

If anything, Verizon is simply responding to competition. The reality is probably that Verizon wants to control how we use our bandwidth, so that they can position themselves to make even more money from us. Otherwise, why not just offer FiOS 400Mbps now, since the technology can apparently handle such speeds? No, they want to develop money-generating services (ads and other ideas) before they open the floodgates and allow some enterprising new company to take advantage of our new found bandwidth.


jmn1207
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join:2000-07-19
Reston, VA
·Verizon FIOS

reply to NPGMBR
said by NPGMBR See Profile :

Whats "Place-shifting"? This is an honest qustion. I've never heard of it!
In a similar way that TV shows can be "time-shifted" using a DVR or VCR to record the content, a "place-shifted" show can be viewed on any computer at any location with a broadband internet connection. The viewing location has been "shifted" from your living room to the coffee shop.


Eat Me

join:2002-09-25
Sussex, NJ
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reply to ddg4005
said by ddg4005 See Profile :

This is the reason I want Fios instead of Cablevision's triple play. The future of broadband, in my opinion, won't revolve around just more speed but versatility. What will cable networks be capable of offering going forward besides increased speeds? Verizon's fiber optic network looks like it'll handle speed upgrades, place-shifting, and a lot more.
Cable networks can already support place shifting. I do it all the time with slingbox.

As for fiber vs coax, I am not quite sure what you think that fiber can do that hybrid fiber-coax cannot. Care to elaborate please?


NPGMBR

join:2001-03-28
Arlington, VA
reply to jmn1207
Thanks for the reply.

So how do they do this without a broadband connection or is the content previously downloaded to a portable device i.e. Zune or iPod?


jmn1207
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join:2000-07-19
Reston, VA
·Verizon FIOS

said by NPGMBR See Profile :

Thanks for the reply.

So how do they do this without a broadband connection or is the content previously downloaded to a portable device i.e. Zune or iPod?
It should work in a similar way that SlingBox currently does. You would need a relatively fast internet connection or a smart phone (probably Verizon Wireless exclusive).

Just guessing, but it would probably work like this:

•you would log into your Verizon account and navigate to the "online TV" section of their website.

•depending on what TV package you were paying for, combined with whatever license agreements that Verizon is able to procure, you would be able to watch those TV channels from the internet.

•alternately, if you have a Verizon phone capable of watching video content, you would probably be able to watch those TV channels on your phone

This is only for those people with notebook computers away from home, or visiting someplace that has desktop computers available for use.

I'm weary about Verizon offering a phone solution to other carriers, so I seriously doubt we would see an iPhone application developed for this service unless Verizon starts selling these phones in the future, which seems more and more likely.


Jamesp347

@verizon.net

reply to Eat Me
It's all about the end user experience. Comcast tried very hard to deliver a good product here in Henrico Virginia, even setting up a dedicated support call center a few years back. But people still jumped ship when FiOS was deployed.

I had Comcast and switched to Verizon FiOS, so did all of my neighbors. Everyone says the same thing, the Menu Guide, the Picture quality, Channel selection, the Internet speed/consistency is better. Finally got HD PPV in my area thanks to FiOS, comcast will still not provide that in this area.

It's word of mouth and end user experience, and how the product is delivered.

Looking at and Displaying a bunch of technical charts, notes, graphs is nice i suppose, but if the user sitting in there home is not happy, then it's useless.


Eat Me

join:2002-09-25
Sussex, NJ
Exactly. It's all about the end user experience.

I have cable and for the most part it's fine, because I use TiVo and not their crappy DVRs.

watice

join:2008-11-01
East Elmhurst, NY

reply to Eat Me
said by Eat Me See Profile :

said by ddg4005 See Profile :

This is the reason I want Fios instead of Cablevision's triple play. The future of broadband, in my opinion, won't revolve around just more speed but versatility. What will cable networks be capable of offering going forward besides increased speeds? Verizon's fiber optic network looks like it'll handle speed upgrades, place-shifting, and a lot more.
Cable networks can already support place shifting. I do it all the time with slingbox.

As for fiber vs coax, I am not quite sure what you think that fiber can do that hybrid fiber-coax cannot. Care to elaborate please?
i'd be glad to! for starters, how about upstream speed?


ddg4005
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join:2001-08-22
Bronx, NY
·Verizon Online DSL

reply to Eat Me
said by Eat Me See Profile :

said by ddg4005 See Profile :

This is the reason I want Fios instead of Cablevision's triple play. The future of broadband, in my opinion, won't revolve around just more speed but versatility. What will cable networks be capable of offering going forward besides increased speeds? Verizon's fiber optic network looks like it'll handle speed upgrades, place-shifting, and a lot more.
Cable networks can already support place shifting. I do it all the time with slingbox.

As for fiber vs coax, I am not quite sure what you think that fiber can do that hybrid fiber-coax cannot. Care to elaborate please?
For one thing cable is a shared technology. I've heard from my friends about the infamous slowdowns during peak times. Additionally the cable companies seem to consider increasing speeds as competing with Verizon's Fios service. That won't be enough to attract or even retain customers going forward.

And lastly, I have Cablevision for television service right now. The picture is not as good as Fios TV. I'd rather wait until I can order Fios than triple up with Cablevision right now.


anon10110101

@verizon.net
reply to Eat Me
How about my 105 HD channels with no additional compression and 50/20 internet speeds.
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