joako
Premium
join:2000-09-07
/dev/null
 ·AT&T U-Verse
| reply to Fisamo
Re: What carrier controls your phone number?
said by Fisamo  :Perhaps heavy traffic with the sudden spike in activity? I had several lookups work quite well a few hours ago. I haven't tried again recently. Rocky--do you know of any plan to offer an automated CNAM portal (likely it would be on a paid basis)? I'm not Rocky, but you can try »www.cnam.info/
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Fisamo
Premium
join:2004-02-20
Apex, NC | Thanks for the tip--I knew about them, but I also think competition is a good thing.  |
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NY Tel
Premium
join:2004-04-09
Smithtown, NY
 ·VOIPo
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said by joako :said by Fisamo :Perhaps heavy traffic with the sudden spike in activity? I had several lookups work quite well a few hours ago. I haven't tried again recently. Rocky--do you know of any plan to offer an automated CNAM portal (likely it would be on a paid basis)? I'm not Rocky, but you can try » www.cnam.info/ Problem with the CNAM site is they go through this period of weeks where it returns no results and says:
Sorry, too many inquiries, try again later. |
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joako
Premium
join:2000-09-07
/dev/null | Not if you pay for the service.
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NY Tel
Premium
join:2004-04-09
Smithtown, NY
·VOIPo
| said by joako :Not if you pay for the service. lol - who wants to do that on a casual basis? |
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josephf
join:2009-04-26 | reply to joako
But there appears to be no alternative to tnid.org to obtain a Telephone Number Owner's Current provider? |
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voipdabbler
join:2006-04-27
Kalispell, MT
| reply to topgun98
topgun98,
Delete doesn't work--I tired and it consistently said 3 records had already been deleted by users from my ISP's IP range. I was wondering what was the best way to contact you to request removal. I'm one of the category of folk who are law enforcement/officers of the court who've successfully gotten records removed from Zabrasearch and other search groups. (Lucky me got 2 death threats within a year from people convicted of murder--one of whom is getting released from prison soon. I am cautious about keeping my information unpublished and am none too happy to see callerid listed for a cell phone and VOIP number in your database, when I never approved this information being published.) So, what's the best way to reach you? |
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PX Eliezer
Premium
join:2008-08-09
New Jersey
·Callcentric
·Optimum Voice
·callwithus
·voip.ms
| The site's email contact address is:
contact@tnID.org
Also see:
Registration info:
»whois.domaintools.com/tnid.org
Registration info for the former site:
»whois.domaintools.com/tirs.us |
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nitzan
Premium,VIP
join:2008-02-27
·ViaTalk
 ·Comcast
| reply to voipdabbler
said by voipdabbler :Lucky me got 2 death threats within a year from people convicted of murder--one of whom is getting released from prison soon. Is it just me, or.... why the hell is a convicted murderer getting released?!? |
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nitzan
Premium,VIP
join:2008-02-27
·ViaTalk
·Comcast
| reply to RockyBB
Guys, before we lynch this guy - keep in mind that he's just the messenger. There's millions of people with access to this information, and buying it is not at all hard. All this site does is makes the data easily accessible - but it's most definitely not the cause of this data being out there.
The real problem is carriers and/or their employees selling this data to 3rd parties. There is absolutely no way you can be completely anonymous unless either 1. You get the phone number in someone else's name, or 2. You get a VoIP provider and request the number specifically be anonymous. (yes- this is possible - the provider could just order the number in their name)
AFAIK most VoIP providers will not sell your data to 3rd parties. I wouldn't put it past the larger ones, but you're safe with smaller ones.
As with anything else in life- just because someone (phone co) says you're unlisted or anonymous doesn't mean you are. There's still going to be millions of people with access to this data and it WILL be passed along to spammers/crooks/etc. The ONLY way you can truly be "unlisted" is by getting your number anonymously to begin with. |
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soitgoes2
Premium
join:2005-01-14
·Future Nine Corpor..
| reply to voipdabbler
said by voipdabbler :Delete doesn't work--I tired and it consistently said 3 records had already been deleted by users from my ISP's IP range. I was wondering what was the best way to contact you to request removal....I am cautious about keeping my information unpublished and am none too happy to see callerid listed for a cell phone and VOIP number in your database, when I never approved this information being published.) So, what's the best way to reach you? Well, the site doesn't display any CNAM info right now (down for a few days apparently), so maybe the removal feature also isn't working.
However, I would suggest that you are approaching this the wrong way. This site is ONE of MANY that have LIDB access (most of them charge, however). You would be much better off going to your telephone provider to have your name removed from the LIDB so that NO ONE has access to it by such means. |
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topgun98
join:2002-12-29
Birmingham, AL
| reply to Fisamo
said by Fisamo :Out of curiosity, if someone "deletes file" and then gives up that number, is there a mechanism to re-add it to the database at a later time? Is there anything to stop someone else from deleting "my" numbers? Please don't take this as a complaint, just food for thought. No, currently if someone deletes a number, it's gone forever. We're working on a more advanced solution.
said by Fisamo :Your site is welcome, IMO--it provides a great resource for those going through porting hell (and those contemplating it  ). I'm very pleased to hear that you and others have found it useful! |
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topgun98
join:2002-12-29
Birmingham, AL
| reply to Fisamo
said by Fisamo :Keep in mind that while the LIDB is a dynamic creature, it's not an instantaneous change. If you make a change with your provider, it could take weeks before the change is picked up. I'm not sure why the changes take so long; perhaps someone on the inside can share their wisdom... (The best I can describe is that there is no one universal LIDB, and, similar to DNS propagation, the LIDBs sync with one another in some fashion.) Actually, our site should reflect the changes almost immediately once the carrier updates the information (which can take time). We're actually querying the LIDB database of the carrier that owns the number -- we're not using an aggregated alternative database that could contain out of date information. |
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joako
Premium
join:2000-09-07
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·AT&T U-Verse
| reply to josephf
said by NY Tel :said by joako :Not if you pay for the service. lol - who wants to do that on a casual basis? If you have an Asterisk server, even though the queries are expensive, it is cheaper than paying your carrier per call because you can cache the lookups or lookup in google first and only query them if google has no match.
said by josephf :But there appears to be no alternative to tnid.org to obtain a Telephone Number Owner's Current provider? I have a hack of a script that pulls it from a website, but that's not what that site is intended for:
# carrier.sh 13053248811
carrier=Paetec Communications, Inc.
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josephf
join:2009-04-26
·VoicePulse
2 edits | said by josephf :But there appears to be no alternative to tnid.org to obtain a Telephone Number Owner's Current provider? I have a hack of a script that pulls it from a website, but that's not what that site is intended for: # carrier.sh 13053248811 carrier=Paetec Communications, Inc.
Anyone know where this data (who the current provider is) is ultimately originating from (on a real-time basis)? |
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RockyBB
Premium
join:2005-01-31
Longmont, CO
| said by josephf :Anyone know where this data (who the current provider is) is ultimately originating from (on a real-time basis)? I had a new customer port in their phone number today. The tnid.org website showed the winning carrier information prior to the carrier itself alerting me that the port had completed! If it's not real time, it's real close! |
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josephf
join:2009-04-26
·VoicePulse
| said by RockyBB :said by josephf :Anyone know where this data (who the current provider is) is ultimately originating from (on a real-time basis)? I had a new customer port in their phone number today. The tnid.org website showed the winning carrier information prior to the carrier itself alerting me that the port had completed! If it's not real time, it's real close! Where does tnID pull the current carrier info from? |
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RockyBB
Premium
join:2005-01-31
Longmont, CO
| said by josephf :Where does tnID pull the current carrier info from? the owner of the site posted a few times in this thread. that's a question for him to answer, if he would like to share. The industry's Overlord for number portability is NPAC. |
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voipdabbler
join:2006-04-27
Kalispell, MT
| reply to soitgoes2
Actually, the best method is to contact multiple fronts. I'm not just contacting this site, but the carriers and the site linked on tng.org's pages (the pay service--Reverse Cell Phone Directory). If you don't contact them all, it's rather a futile exercise.
The real question is how the CallerId database has gotten into these venues in the first place. It wasn't meant to be a searchable public database.
nitzan--one word for you--parole. |
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topgun98
join:2002-12-29
Birmingham, AL
1 edit | voipdabbler,
Please email me at contact@tnID.org so that we can work this out. That address forwards to my personal inbox, but's it's useful for us because it copies my partners. |
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