phoneguy2009
@shawcable.net
| reply to topgun98
Re: What carrier controls your phone number?
said by topgun98  : - It is not a "bug" that the Caller ID is cached after the first request. However, the data is not cached forever. After a set number of days, the SS7/TCAP query is executed when someone requests it. Please keep in mind that we're spending hundreds of dollars on Caller ID queries, and we're giving the results away for free. This is against the LIDB rules and is certain to get you blacklisted. I presume that's why your site keeps going offline.
Verizon, Qwest, AT&T, etc will get their panties in a bunch if you are accessing their LIDB information and caching the results. That's one sure way to be sued out of existence!
CNAM.info stopped working a few days ago and the guy told me it's because someone was caching data and they got caught. |
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Will Hill
join:2009-06-07 | reply to topgun98
Have any/all of the bugs reported here been addressed yet? |
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NY Tel
Premium
join:2004-04-09
Smithtown, NY
 ·VOIPo
| reply to phoneguy2009
said by phoneguy2009 :said by topgun98 : - It is not a "bug" that the Caller ID is cached after the first request. However, the data is not cached forever. After a set number of days, the SS7/TCAP query is executed when someone requests it. Please keep in mind that we're spending hundreds of dollars on Caller ID queries, and we're giving the results away for free. This is against the LIDB rules and is certain to get you blacklisted. I presume that's why your site keeps going offline. Verizon, Qwest, AT&T, etc will get their panties in a bunch if you are accessing their LIDB information and caching the results. That's one sure way to be sued out of existence! CNAM.info stopped working a few days ago and the guy told me it's because someone was caching data and they got caught. The site has been totally re-designed and there is now no way to get "free Caller ID" lookups.
Check it out. The free stuff was a come-on to get us hooked. |
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PX Eliezer
Premium
join:2008-08-09
New Jersey
·Callcentric
·Optimum Voice
·callwithus
·voip.ms
| said by NY Tel :The site has been totally re-designed and there is now no way to get "free Caller ID" lookups. Check it out. The free stuff was a come-on to get us hooked. You are probably right as far as the CID. However, it is still very helpful to have the info on the original and current carriers. |
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unknvoip
WWJID?
join:2006-07-25
Rochester, NY
·ViaTalk
| reply to NY Tel
said by NY Tel : The free stuff was a come-on to get us hooked. Yup, just another redirect to a pay too much for reverse phone search info.  |
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NY Tel
Premium
join:2004-04-09
Smithtown, NY
·VOIPo
| said by unknvoip :said by NY Tel : The free stuff was a come-on to get us hooked. Yup, just another redirect to a pay too much for reverse phone search info. 14.95 for an inquiry? I'll take my chances elsewhere. |
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RockyBB
Premium
join:2005-01-31
Longmont, CO
| said by NY Tel : I'll take my chances elsewhere. yeah, me too. The next time I find something useful, I'll keep it to myself. those that were appreciative of a source for the info about what carrier is handling a phone number post-porting were far outnumbered by the crybabies, complainers and fault-finders. No, the site turned out not to be perfect or real time, but it is much more than anyone else gave us, and it was free. What was the guy's reward for putting that together? A load of accusations and threats from too many forum members. If I was the owner of the site, I would have shut it down altogether. |
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josephf
join:2009-04-26
·VoicePulse
| I note that the title of this thread "What carrier controls your phone number?" extols the sites ability to determine a numbers current carrier, and not particularly the CNAM info. And this functionality is still available on the site, free, and as good as ever. (Albeit not real-time after the first lookup of a DID.)
I don't know of any other site, surely not free, that offers post-porting DID carrier information. So certainly this site still has much meat to it. |
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PX Eliezer
Premium
join:2008-08-09
New Jersey | Agreed. The carrier lookup is a very useful service. |
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NY Tel
Premium
join:2004-04-09
Smithtown, NY
·VOIPo
| said by PX Eliezer :Agreed. The carrier lookup is a very useful service. Yes but the site says "providing free caller ID lookups" when that is not true.
That's the part that I think is "Less than true" so my only point is that they should call it free carrier lookup  |
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synchron
join:2002-12-31
Simi Valley, CA
| Sorry I don't trust this site!
I just got a new DID for free today saying it's in Agoura Hills CA (local to my Lata) but this site says it's in Irvine, CA, about 75 miles away!
Bad database!
Synchron  |
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Fisamo
Premium
join:2004-02-20
Apex, NC
·VOIPo
·AT&T CallVantage
| reply to RockyBB
I don't think the $14.95 goes to topgun98 ... I also think that NY Tel knew that. 
Rocky, thanks for pointing this site out. It would be good to know why the site no longer shows CNAM info and if that feature is likely to be revived any time soon, even if only on a pay-basis ($0.009/lookup is what Vitelity charges). |
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RockyBB
Premium
join:2005-01-31
Longmont, CO
| reply to synchron
said by synchron :Bad database! or user misinterpretation?
Los Angeles area is huge, as you know, and CLECs don't have CLLIs based on local wire centers...which is why the tnid site says "estimated" local city, because your number could be local to lots of areas.
Check out: »www.telcodata.us/telcodata/ratec···state=ca You'll see all the area code and exchanges in the Agoura rate center ... but look under the CLLI column and you'll see Los Angeles and Long Beach and Anaheim and Irvine!
The meat of the site is what carrier is handling the phone number after porting. |
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hardly
join:2004-02-10
USA
| reply to synchron
said by synchron : . . . saying it's in Agoura Hills CA (local to my Lata) but this site says it's in Irvine, CA, about 75 miles away! Maybe confusion of ratecenter and switch location? |
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PX Eliezer
Premium
join:2008-08-09
New Jersey
·Callcentric
·Optimum Voice
·callwithus
·voip.ms
| Yes.
Physical switch location is often VERY different from ratecenter!!
Can EASILY be 50-75 miles.
This is ESPECIALLY true in CLEC situations.
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Don't be blame the site,
cuz they did had it RIGHT! |
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synchron
join:2002-12-31
Simi Valley, CA
| But this is why CA has so many area codes. How can 818 be possibly considered as Irvine CA??
I'm in Simi Valley (805) and I got a free DID today from sipgate one in Agoura Hills (818), please tell me this is true and that it is NOT in Irvine (714).
Dazed & Confused!
Synchron.  |
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burgerwars
join:2004-09-11
Northridge, CA
1 edit | Given time, a few more earthquakes, geologic drift, and a few million years, Agoura should be down in Orange County by then. The database is just ahead of its time. |
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NY Tel
Premium
join:2004-04-09
Smithtown, NY
·VOIPo
| said by burgerwars :Given time, a few more earthquakes, geologic drift, and a few million years, Agoura should be down in Orange County by then. The database is just ahead of its time. And as Johny Carson used to say:
"How do you get there? Let me tell you friends, how do you get there! You take the San Diego Freeway to the Ventura Freeway. You drive to the Slauson Cutoff, get out of your car, cut off your Slauson, get back in your car, then you drive six miles till you see the Giant Neon Vice-Squad Cop." |
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RockyBB
Premium
join:2005-01-31
Longmont, CO
| reply to synchron
said by synchron :Dazed & Confused! you certainly are. Irvine is area code 949. |
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PX Eliezer
Premium
join:2008-08-09
New Jersey
·Callcentric
·Optimum Voice
·callwithus
·voip.ms
| reply to synchron
My fellow New Jersey guys. |
Area codes have increasingly little to do with areas, especially considering overlays.
Moreover, the PHYSICAL location of a switch is NOT necessarily related to its area code.
Bud Abbott said it decades ago:
If a fat man's belly protrudes over the bar, it still does not belong to the bartender. |
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