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pnh102
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Illegal in the USA

The military is forbidden by the Posse Comitatus Act from taking action against US citizens within US territory.

But if you're outside the USA... watch out.
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N3OGH
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Well I'd piss on the damn spark plug if I thought it would work!
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pnh102
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said by N3OGH See Profile :

Well I'd piss on the damn spark plug if I thought it would work!
I'll have to keep that in my list of canned replies.
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hahano

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reply to pnh102
That is incorrect. Posse Comitatus simply prevents the military from acting as the police and it doesn't apply to the coast guard or the national guard. The majority of limitations imposed on the armed forces by Posse Comitatus were removed with the patriot act.


pnh102
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said by hahano :

That is incorrect. Posse Comitatus simply prevents the military from acting as the police and it doesn't apply to the coast guard or the national guard.
Except for the fact that punishing US citizens for breaking the law is a task that is exclusively delegated to civilian police forces. The military going after someone with a malware-infected computer that is engaged in illegal activities definitely crosses that line.
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UnKown
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depends on the rules of engagement. We are allowed to use lethal force if you attack us. He only stated that the department of the air force would attack back any computer that was attacking it.

Also in the oath taken by all military members you do state that you will defend this nation against all enemies foreign and domestic.


The Folsom
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said by N3OGH See Profile :

Well I'd piss on the damn spark plug if I thought it would work!
"How about a nice game of chess?"
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DavePR

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reply to UnKown
[BQUOTE=UnKown

Also in the oath taken by all military members you do state that you will defend this nation against all enemies foreign and domestic.
[/BQUOTE

Does not. It says you'll defend the Constitution, not the nation. The idea is what you swear to defend, not the people, not the buildings, not the land.

colorbars

join:2003-03-20
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reply to The Folsom
I got a better one. Same character.

"After very careful consideration I have come to the conclusion that your 'new defense system' sucks."

mc5w

join:2002-06-14
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reply to pnh102
Except when enforcing Federal drug laws, federal racketeering laws, or apprehending Federal fugitives.

The Posse Comitatus Act only pertains to the military providing assistance in enforcement of state law. Even then, any U.S. citizen can apprehend a felon just as long as they are not using cannons or tanks.


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said by The Folsom See Profile :

said by N3OGH See Profile :

Well I'd piss on the damn spark plug if I thought it would work!
"How about a nice game of chess?"
No, Global Thermonuclear War

Fine...Choose your side

1.US
2.Russia


pnh102
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said by mc5w See Profile :

Except when enforcing Federal drug laws, federal racketeering laws, or apprehending Federal fugitives.
I don't seem to remember any cases of the US military being involved in these cases domestically. How often does it happen?
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Tomek
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reply to pnh102
Military has policy to fight enemy, foreign or domestic.
But yeah botnets are an issue, especially those outside of US control.


The Folsom
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said by colorbars See Profile :

I got a better one. Same character.

"After very careful consideration I have come to the conclusion that your 'new defense system' sucks."
"I don't have to take that from you, you pig-eyed sack of shit!"
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John Galt
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said by pnh102 See Profile :

Except for the fact that punishing US citizens for breaking the law is a task that is exclusively delegated to civilian police forces.
Actually, the courts are the ones that "punish" law-breakers, not the police forces.
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Maggs
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reply to pnh102
Posse Comitatus is no longer in force. Bush did away with it.
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