DarkLogix
join:2008-10-23
Baytown, TX |  Great
now if they could focus on internet and not on TV |
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JSRoman
Premium
join:2005-03-10
Callahan, FL | Jesus Christ! RTFA
"freeing up bandwidth for DOCSIS 3.0" |
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cornelius785
join:2006-10-26
Worcester, MA | reply to DarkLogix
in the case of CATV, they are intertwined. if you read the article.... you'd see that readjusting the cable channels free up bandwidth (Hz not bps), which enables them to offer more services which INCLUDES DOCSIS 3.0. |
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DarkLogix
join:2008-10-23
Baytown, TX
 ·Comcast Workplace
·Comcast
| Ya I guess you don't get my point
drop all channels and use the whole range for internet
the TV service isn't very good anyway
I get my VOD from the internet
I watch Directv for TV
I have no need for their TV service at all just for the coax that happens to be used for it
so upgrade the plant to 1GHz and use it all for internet |
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TKJunkMail
Enjoy the sun
Premium
join:2002-03-03
Avalon, NJ
 ·Sprint Mobile Broa..
·Comcast
| said by DarkLogix  :Ya I guess you don't get my point drop all channels and use the whole range for internet the TV service isn't very good anyway I get my VOD from the internet I watch Directv for TV I have no need for their TV service at all just for the coax that happens to be used for it
so upgrade the plant to 1GHz and use it all for internet Yeah, that will happen. 
They get 75% of their revenue from TV related products. The rest comes from voice & the internet.
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DarkLogix
join:2008-10-23
Baytown, TX | Ya I just don't care about their TV service |
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TKJunkMail
Enjoy the sun
Premium
join:2002-03-03
Avalon, NJ
·Sprint Mobile Broa..
·Comcast
| said by DarkLogix :Ya I just don't care about their TV service But they have over 24 million customers that do. Who do you think they will care about? You or them?
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DarkLogix
join:2008-10-23
Baytown, TX | I get your point I just wish people would see the light and get Sat TV, cable internet, and pots phone
I know it won't happen though |
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JPL
Premium
join:2007-04-04
West Chester, PA
 ·Verizon FIOS
| said by DarkLogix :I get your point I just wish people would see the light and get Sat TV, cable internet, and pots phone I know it won't happen though See the light? What Comcast's numbers (as well as Verizon's and AT&T's) tell me is that bundling is very popular. No, it's not for everyone, but if you can save a few bucks per month by bundling your services, that's not a bad thing - and it would be suicidal for a service like Comcast to just become an ISP. |
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sharksfan3
Premium
join:2004-02-16
Poughkeepsie, NY
·Verizon Wireless B..
 ·Optimum Voice
·Optimum Online
·Time Warner VOIP
·RoadRunner Cable
| reply to DarkLogix
said by DarkLogix :I get your point I just wish people would see the light and get Sat TV, cable internet, and pots phone I know it won't happen though Please explain how having a combination of sat tv, cable internet, and a pots phone is seeing the light? Sounds like you are wasting money. |
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sturmvogel
Obama '08
join:2008-02-07
Houston, TX
| said by sharksfan3 :said by DarkLogix :I get your point I just wish people would see the light and get Sat TV, cable internet, and pots phone I know it won't happen though Please explain how having a combination of sat tv, cable internet, and a pots phone is seeing the light? Sounds like you are wasting money. Because the combination actually works. Which one would you have: spend less money for garbage that does not work or spend a bit more and have good service ?
1. Cable Internet. Fastest speed, works well after 10+ service calls and avoiding the "generous" caps. (no DSL available)
2. Sat TV. Cheaper, better quality HDTV, no weirdness with digital tuners not working for various reasons (operator forgot to enter ID/subscription whatever into system, constantly needs to reauthorize at weird times and cannot due to poor cable, operator changes for no reason, etc) annoyances.
3. POTS. Works, not dependent on weird similar operator issues as #2, true emergency dialing, no fade outs / drops whatever.
If I could get DSL, I would drop CC's HSI/TV in a second. Never used their phone and am considering dropping TV and subscribing to satellite soon, even if it was TWICE as expensive, just since am so tired of CC.
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damonlab
Premium
join:2001-05-02
Detroit, MI
clubs: 
| reply to JSRoman
said by JSRoman :"freeing up bandwidth for DOCSIS 3.0" What does Docsis 3 matter when they don't take full advantage of Docsis 1?
Docsis 1 is capable of 38 Mbit/s down and 9 Mbit/s up. |
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CO_Chris
Premium
join:2001-08-28
Broomfield, CO
·Comcast
·Earthlink Cable Mo..
·Comcast Digital Vo..
1 edit | reply to DarkLogix
said by DarkLogix :I get your point I just wish people would see the light and get Sat TV, cable internet, and pots phone I know it won't happen though I think someone is smoking some thing.. Who wants a Pots line anyway? I have a cell and CCDV also SAT Blows when it rains or snows hard it will go out,But if you want he NFL package then sign up,No thanks i will wait for cable get it and that is in due time when the NFL wakes up.. |
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jt1
@comcast.net | reply to DarkLogix
this helps the hsi. after reclaiming the bandwidth they will launch 50mbps hsi service. |
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JPL
Premium
join:2007-04-04
West Chester, PA
·Verizon FIOS
2 edits | reply to sturmvogel
said by sturmvogel :said by sharksfan3 :said by DarkLogix :I get your point I just wish people would see the light and get Sat TV, cable internet, and pots phone I know it won't happen though Please explain how having a combination of sat tv, cable internet, and a pots phone is seeing the light? Sounds like you are wasting money. Because the combination actually works. Which one would you have: spend less money for garbage that does not work or spend a bit more and have good service ? 1. Cable Internet. Fastest speed, works well after 10+ service calls and avoiding the "generous" caps. (no DSL available) 2. Sat TV. Cheaper, better quality HDTV, no weirdness with digital tuners not working for various reasons (operator forgot to enter ID/subscription whatever into system, constantly needs to reauthorize at weird times and cannot due to poor cable, operator changes for no reason, etc) annoyances. 3. POTS. Works, not dependent on weird similar operator issues as #2, true emergency dialing, no fade outs / drops whatever. If I could get DSL, I would drop CC's HSI/TV in a second. Never used their phone and am considering dropping TV and subscribing to satellite soon, even if it was TWICE as expensive, just since am so tired of CC. Sounds like you have a specific beef with ONE provider in one specific market. To claim that that paradigm is bad across the board is silly. I have FiOS for everything. My internet is awesome - 20/5 service, with no caps, no throttling, and no slow periods. Their TV service has the best PQ I've seen, with 109 (and counting) HD channels available in my market, and their phone service is still traditional POTS (even though it's now delivered over fiber instead of copper).
As for DBS being cheaper - not for me it isn't. Even if I didn't bundle, I'd be saving money over an equivalent setup with DirecTV - I know, because I came from DirecTV.
In terms of Comcast - what makes them profitable is the fact that they're able to bundle. Those triple-plays are extremely popular. Think there's a reason that DirecTV, e.g., is considering starting up a wireless phone service? Can't imagine why they'd want to do that... unless so they can also jump on that bandwagon of being able to provide bundled services.
If Comcast made the jump just to HSI, they would lose money - they couldn't sustain their current business with just HSI - I don't care how fast their service would be. And because they'd only provide one service, they'd lose the ability to attract people in by offering bundled services - you know, one of the enticements that they've used to grow their business so successfully. Which means that their HSI would be more expensive. Which means that they would likely LOSE customers to those services that did provide bundling. At the end of the day it would be, like I said, totally suicidal for Comcast to do that. They're successful because their business model is working. By all means, let's totally mess with that model, to make it so they're not profitable. That'll work! |
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jjeffeory
join:2002-12-04
USA | reply to TKJunkMail
Neither... |
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jjeffeory
join:2002-12-04
USA | reply to CO_Chris
SAT doesn't go out when is rains or snows hard. I was in hurricane Katrina and the satellite tv lasted a lot longer than the cable tv. It only went down when the wind blew down the dish. |
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iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
·Comcast
 ·Qwest.net
·magicjack.com
·BeeCreek Communica..
·Sprint Mobile Broa..
| reply to damonlab
With PowerBoost I get about 2.7 Mbps up here on DOCSIS 1.1. Downloads are always above 16 Mbps so they could...guess what...create a 16/2 tier...oh wait they've already done that in some markets. It's called Blast. Also the higher-end non-D3 biz tier is 16/2.
Try putting more than about 16/2 on a DOCSIS 1.1 line and you're asking for trouble. |
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espaeth
Digital Plumber
Premium,MVM
join:2001-04-21
Minneapolis, MN
·voip.ms
·Vitelity VOIP
·Callcentric
·VoiceStick
·ViaTalk
·Comcast
·Embarq
| reply to CO_Chris
said by CO_Chris :SAT Blows when it rains or snows hard it will go out Only if your installer used 1) a dish too small for your region or 2) were too lazy to peak the dish appropriately.
Signal fade should be very rare on DBS installations. |
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espaeth
Digital Plumber
Premium,MVM
join:2001-04-21
Minneapolis, MN
·voip.ms
·Vitelity VOIP
·Callcentric
·VoiceStick
·ViaTalk
·Comcast
·Embarq
| reply to damonlab
said by damonlab :What does Docsis 3 matter when they don't take full advantage of Docsis 1? Docsis 1 is capable of 38 Mbit/s down and 9 Mbit/s up. .. per shared segment.
6 mbps out of 38mbps shared is quite a bit different from 12mbps they are allocated into 152mbps shared with DOCSIS 3.0 4-channel bonding. |
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