  en102 Canadian, eh?
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| reply to ztmike Re: OK> What about At&t?
AT&T is being a little smarter about their plans...larger caps on low tiers to begin with.
quote: The boiling frog story states that a frog can be boiled alive if the water is heated slowly enough it is said that if a frog is placed in boiling water, it will jump out, but if it is placed in cold water that is slowly heated, it will never jump out.
TWC = boiling water AT&T = slowly heating it
Also, is AT&T in that market ? I know they're planning it for TX and Reno, NV. -- Canada = Hollywood North |
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 Fisamo Premium join:2004-02-20 Apex, NC | The ILEC there is Embarq. |
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  Matt Take me down to the paradise city Premium join:2003-07-20 Jamestown, NC
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| said by Fisamo :The ILEC there is Embarq. But in most of North Carolina, at least the major cities, it *IS* AT&T. |
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  en102 Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26 Valencia, CA | Isn't it Embarq for Raleigh ? |
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| reply to Matt Absolutely true. I'm in a Uverse area, but the deployment hasn't reached my neighborhood yet. Since AT&T is already wiring up Apex, I doubt our town would consider a muni project (even though we are also an electrical co-op member).
Here's my feeling on the anti-muni bills: They do need to pass one, but it should be very simple.
Any municipality that feels the need to build out its own network should be allowed to do so, without restriction from selling service to residents. However, any municipality that chooses to build its own network must give up all local regulatory power over the telcos and cablecos regarding cost controls and service level requirements (e.g. local franchise agreements).
Suppose a town were to build a fiber network and operate it as a common carrier--operate the physical plant and resell the service to AT&T/TWC/whoever. Could such a model fly? In such a model, what say (if any) could the municipality have with regard to speed offerings, caps, prices? |
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  S_engineer
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| said by Fisamo : In such a model, what say (if any) could the municipality have with regard to speed offerings, caps, prices? Or liabilities that other providers being hooked for now. Does the RIAA/MPAA get to inspect packets or do they make the muni do it? Do this impose throttling at peak hours? |
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 ericdaboy
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| said by S_engineer :said by Fisamo : In such a model, what say (if any) could the municipality have with regard to speed offerings, caps, prices? Or liabilities that other providers being hooked for now. Does the RIAA/MPAA get to inspect packets or do they make the muni do it? Do this impose throttling at peak hours? Do you know how the reports get to the abuse dept of the ISPs from the MPAA or RIAA? |
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  Matt Take me down to the paradise city Premium join:2003-07-20 Jamestown, NC
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| reply to en102 said by en102 :Isn't it Embarq for Raleigh ? Nope, AT&T. I know AT&T has my area (Winston-Salem, parts of High-Point and all of Greensboro), the majority of Charlotte, and the RDU area. Research Triangle Park is Verizon for some weird reason, but no FiOS yet. AT&T is also Ashville I believe. Embarq is mainly in the rural areas. |
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| reply to en102 said by en102 :Isn't it Embarq for Raleigh ? I think that area is similar to Orlando. 95% of Orlando is AT&T, I live in part that is Embarq. |
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