jester121
join:2003-08-09
Lake Zurich, IL
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| Fuzzy math?
$20 per home passed vs $100 is a pretty silly comparison to make unless it's apples/apples; what are the differences in materials/labor here vs. there? How many customers are served out of a single facility there vs. here? How old is the physical plant?
It's a nice glaring headline but it's a pretty leading question. |
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BF69
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN
| said by jester121  :$20 per home passed vs $100 is a pretty silly comparison to make unless it's apples/apples; what are the differences in materials/labor here vs. there? How many customers are served out of a single facility there vs. here? How old is the physical plant? It's a nice glaring headline but it's a pretty leading question. who gives a shit even if it's $100 per house? Over a year year period that amounts to 83 cents a month. Over 25 years it's 33 cetns a month. Big whoop. In my book that's practically nothing. |
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BillRoland
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join:2001-01-21
Ocala, FL
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| said by BF69 :said by jester121 :$20 per home passed vs $100 is a pretty silly comparison to make unless it's apples/apples; what are the differences in materials/labor here vs. there? How many customers are served out of a single facility there vs. here? How old is the physical plant? It's a nice glaring headline but it's a pretty leading question. who gives a shit even if it's $100 per house? Over a year year period that amounts to 83 cents a month. Over 25 years it's 33 cetns a month. Big whoop. In my book that's practically nothing. Who cares? The companies having to fork over the $100 up front per house care. What an idiotic statement.
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JoesphM
@rr.com
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The companies who service maybe 50% of the homes in an area with maybe 30% of those having modem service. So out of 100 homes, 15 might have service.
So that $100 per home passed costs are $1500 per active modem customer.
Not including modems for customers, tech support, or tech training. |
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Tsume
join:2004-02-23
Johnson City, TN
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| reply to jester121
said by jester121 :$20 per home passed vs $100 is a pretty silly comparison to make unless it's apples/apples; what are the differences in materials/labor here vs. there? How many customers are served out of a single facility there vs. here? How old is the physical plant? It's a nice glaring headline but it's a pretty leading question. The biggest problems here is not population density, customer penetration, age of the plant, or cost of materials.
It's unions, executive compensation, CEO compensation, and board members. |
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BF69
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN
| reply to BillRoland
said by BillRoland :said by BF69 :said by jester121 :$20 per home passed vs $100 is a pretty silly comparison to make unless it's apples/apples; what are the differences in materials/labor here vs. there? How many customers are served out of a single facility there vs. here? How old is the physical plant? It's a nice glaring headline but it's a pretty leading question. who gives a shit even if it's $100 per house? Over a year year period that amounts to 83 cents a month. Over 25 years it's 33 cetns a month. Big whoop. In my book that's practically nothing. Who cares? The companies having to fork over the $100 up front per house care. What an idiotic statement. sorry if a company can't afford that maybe they should be in business? what's with the welfare attitude towards business? No welfare for people, incompetent business people? Sure all the welfare we can give them.
$100 per house is NOTHING. How much did Verizon pay per house for FiOS? 25X that or more? quit making excuses for business people that suck at business. |
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BF69
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN
| reply to JoesphM
said by JoesphM :
The companies who service maybe 50% of the homes in an area with maybe 30% of those having modem service. So out of 100 homes, 15 might have service.
So that $100 per home passed costs are $1500 per active modem customer.
Not including modems for customers, tech support, or tech training.
50% whose fault is that? If you have a better product than the competition at a competitive price you WILL be successful. If you can't even get half then it's YOU that is at fault. All those others cost you mention are just bullshit. Those costs have already been factored in. What before now that company didn't train it's people or have tech support? Modems don't cost shit. Those companies get them at a discount so they arne't paying what you would pay at wal-mart. Not to mention they charge their customers for those modems. Those companies make the money back on those modems within a year. |
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JoesphM
@rr.com
| said by BF69 :50% whose fault is that? That's just the nature of the industry... look around at the major cable companies quarterly reports. Some have a few points higher, some a few lower.
Some people just don't want to pay for cable, TV, or broadband. That's why roof antennas and dial-up still have a huge number of users. That's also why a 2nd cable company or overbuilder often fails, there just aren't enough customers willing to fork over the dough to support the costs.
Modems do cost money especially in when you buy thousands or millions, so does ADDITIONAL support costs for a NEW product or standard.
These are all still large UPFRONT costs that need LOANS to finance for repayment LATER. Great time for that sort of financial activity to happen... |
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vpoko
Premium
join:2003-07-03
Jamaica Plain, MA
| reply to BF69
said by BF69 :who gives a shit even if it's $100 per house? Over a year year period that amounts to 83 cents a month. Doesn't it work out to $8.00 a month? |
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jester121
join:2003-08-09
Lake Zurich, IL
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| said by vpoko :said by BF69 :who gives a shit even if it's $100 per house? Over a year year period that amounts to 83 cents a month. Doesn't it work out to $8.00 a month? It's in poor taste to interrupt nonsensical rantings with facts or logic. |
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N10Cities
SILENCE I Keel You
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join:2002-05-07
Roland, OK
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2 edits | reply to Tsume
Or more precisely, those three words I hate... "maximizing shareholder value"...  ....
Look at the Verizon FIOS example. While Verizon actually went against the grain and was looking long-term in regards to their infrastructure, a lot of their stockholders had a fit because it could ding their share price in the short term...never mind how it could help them long term.... |
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