heyyahblah
join:2009-02-01
Mississauga, ON | reply to RuralOtt
Re: Evading throttling with uTP / uTorrent 1.9a
ne1 try the newest version? does it work or not have they found a way around it. I'm stuck at 30 kb/s with these settings so I have a feeling that I'm getting throttled.
help anyone? |
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RuralOtt
join:2004-12-07
K2G
 ·TekSavvy Solutions..
1 edit | said by heyyahblah  :ne1 try the newest version? does it work or not have they found a way around it. I'm stuck at 30 kb/s with these settings so I have a feeling that I'm getting throttled. help anyone? I was using the latest build. Download speed was up to 450 KB around mid-night (no MLPPP, of course) |
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heyyahblah
join:2009-02-01
Mississauga, ON
| fudge man, no way !! i have the latest one and I was using the same settings as pg. 1. I knew I was getting thorttled because I couldn't get past 30kb/s and then still at 1am I was getting 50kb/s ... fak man ... whats wrong. Do I have to uninstall it and reinstall remove reg keys or something
argh!!!!!!
fak
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l0thar
join:2005-12-29
Far Far Away
| said by heyyahblah :fudge man, no way !! i have the latest one and I was using the same settings as pg. 1. Speeds you can get with the method in the original post are limited by the number of people in the swarm supporting udp transfers - that will be only people using newer uTorrent (and sometimes the Bit Torrent client 6.2) versions.
In a popular torrent, you might have enough connections to get good speeds. If is a small one, you would not be connected to anyone not using udp mode. So, your mileage may vary. 
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heyyahblah
join:2009-02-01
Mississauga, ON
| maybe something had to do with me upgrading it, because cant seem to get it working bypass, before on old vesrion it was ok, but you cant get that one anymore since they took it down.
i have the settings like on pg 1 on port 1723 and i'm getting fking thorttled at 25-30kb/sec.
i tried uninstalling it and running ccleaner and rebooting but no go, when I re-install it still remembers the old settings.
anyway to completely remove the alpha from the system so it forgets it and program the settings from fresh? i hate being throttled, even on these settings its like it doesn't see it. or something. tips? |
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heyyahblah
join:2009-02-01
Mississauga, ON
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heyyahblah
join:2009-02-01
Mississauga, ON
| hmm new port seems to have fixed this. 1723 not working for me |
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new_alpha
@bell.ca
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said by heyyahblah :maybe something had to do with me upgrading it, because cant seem to get it working bypass, before on old vesrion it was ok, but you cant get that one anymore since they took it down. If needed, someone could attach a copy of the older alpha here, have one myself on my downloads directory. But i think the newer alpha is a better choice.
Likely, Bell's DPI gear had detected you and gave you a hard time. Try rebooting the modem, wait a few minutes, before restarting uTorrent again. |
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heyyahblah
join:2009-02-01
Mississauga, ON | yea i did that and swapped ports as well.
1723 not working. prob got bell spies in here.
we just be quiet
about this |
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fer_sure
@bell.ca | Yes, some of them seem to hang around and read the forums during business hours - our money at work, against us.
Quite annoying those shills. |
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l0thar
join:2005-12-29
Far Far Away
| reply to heyyahblah
heyyahblah - just noticed something in your two screenshots.
One of the torrents has two trackers listed, one being an udp one. uTorrent doesn't support udp tracked torrents, so you should remove that on from the list.
The other one has a HUGE list of trackers, which add traffic and "busy-ness" to your client. I would consider removing some of them, it reduces the overhead and frees up time for other tasks.
If you still want the older alpha, I can attach it here, but I think the newer one is improved. |
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Hebrekon
@bell.ca | reply to dbsanfte
Ive modified the *10 back to 15. and it went up to 150 -80 range. and use to be from 60 - 10. so I guess it good. but I know I can get faster then this . because I have 7mb download speed. |
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l0thar
join:2005-12-29
Far Far Away
| said by Hebrekon :
I...but I know I can get faster then this . because I have 7mb download speed. Your anon ID says it all Hebrekon @bell.ca - you need multilink PPP, which bellER does not offer (defeats their DPI stupid gear).
Switch ISP, look for someone who cares about the customer.
Then, you will get higher speeds and less damage to your whole internet experience. |
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Hebrekon
@bell.ca
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you need multilink PPP, which bellER does not offer (defeats their DPI stupid gear).
Switch ISP, look for someone who cares about the customer.
What is Multilink PPP ???... now I cant get pass 100kb...
Can I Enable some ports ??? would that help ? |
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Hebrekon
@bell.ca
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when u have a udp tracker are you suppose to delete it ???
what is a udp ? and what does it do? I notice I have som udp://(bunch of shit) trackers on many of my torrents and most of them have 0 seeds affiliated with it... so I should delete them ? |
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l0thar
join:2005-12-29
Far Far Away
| Hebrekon,
Yes, remove any tracker URLs that have udp://www... on them.
uTorrent does not support udp torrents yet, so it adds errors and overhead.
Multilink PPP is when you combine more than one PPP session together.
Some people have more than one phone line with DSL service, and if their ISP supports multilink ppp, they can combine these lines into one session. It adds the speed of the lines, some are getting 10,000 kb/s downloads that way.
Now, multilink ppp can also be run over a single phone line (like most of us have); in this case, it can bypass the throttling on Bell's dpi gear.
You would need service from an isp supporting multilink ppp, at this time I believe that's Teksavvy, Velcom, and possibly Acanac. |
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Hebrekon
join:2009-05-22
Pierrefonds, QC
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ok... so PPP is dial-up and Bell is not PPP because its DSL ???
2) So are you trying to tell me that the only way to get fast torrent dl is to change providers and there is no way to get around it because im with Bell...
3) is teksavy throtlling two... and buy doing what what said in this forum previously ( dl utrront 1.9a, and port 1723 and all ) fixes that. OR teksavvy is not throlling right now ??
(im saying right now becaue probably they will eventually but wtv that in the futur, and for now id like to DL at 500kb like im supose too)
finally.
Ive did everything from trying port 80, port 1723. and even port fowarding (and hosting them, wtv it means becasue im really clueless in all of this). So ive tryed all of it (hopefully not everything because that means im scrude) and Ive never NEVER manage to KEEP more than a few seconds a speed higher then 100kbs.
is there anything I can do to get my dl to at less 300.
do I really need to get my rocket laucher and blow up who ever i need to blow up to get this to work like its suppose to. |
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Hebrekon
join:2009-05-22
Pierrefonds, QC
| reply to dbsanfte
ok... so PPP is dial-up and Bell is not PPP because its DSL ???
2) So are you trying to tell me that the only way to get fast torrent dl is to change providers and there is no way to get around it because im with Bell...
3) is teksavvy throttling two... and buy doing what what said in this forum previously ( dl utorrent 1.9a, and port 1723 and all ) fixes that. OR teksavvy is not throttling right now ??
(im saying right now because probably they will eventually but wtv that in the future, and for now id like to DL at 500kb like im suppose too)
finally.
Ive did everything from trying port 80, port 1723. and even port forwarding (and hosting them, wtv it means because im really clueless in all of this). So ive tried all of it (hopefully not everything because that means im screwed) and Ive never NEVER manage to KEEP more than a few seconds a speed higher then 100kbs.
is there anything I can do to get my dl to at less 300.
do I really need to get my rocket launcher and blow up who ever i need to blow up to get this to work like its suppose to. |
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Davesnothere
@teksavvy.com
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said by dbsanfte :It's strange that a lot of people don't seem to have success with this, because in my experience, forcing uTP in uTorrent with this particular configuration beats the Bell throttle consistently. So, walkthrough. You'll need the uTorrent 1.9 alpha, this is a link to the March 24th build: » download.utorrent.com/beta/utorr···.upx.exeOnce you've gotten that, you'll need to do the following. Set the bittorrent configuration options as you see here in these screenshots. In the advanced settings, you'll need to force bt.transp_disposition to 10, in order to force uTorrent only to use the uTP UDP protocol. Note that the specific port setting is important in my experience. If MLPPP isn't an option for you, this should get you unthrottled reasonably well. Results in the last screenie at 12am during throttling hours, after about 25mins of solid downloading. Thank You for offering this !
What I have noticed (which may be affecting some peeps' mileage) is, simply put, that if there are not enough folks out there who have the file you want AND have uTP enabled at THEIR end, then you could even get NOTHING in some cases where you originally got SOME transfer speed before changing the settings at YOUR end.
For MY usage, I occasionally flip between normal settings and YOURS, depending on what I'm getting at the time.
And sometimes, it makes a BIG difference (other times, not).
Cheers ! 
One last observation : The uTorrent installer file at the link you provided is not the same version as what was there when I first downloaded it. - I do not know whether that matters. |
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l0thar
join:2005-12-29
Far Far Away
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said by Hebrekon :ok... so PPP is dial-up and Bell is not PPP because its DSL ??? 2) So are you trying to tell me that the only way to get fast torrent dl is to change providers and there is no way to get around it because im with Bell... Yes, I would really recommend you considering leaving Bell - they are the ones causing you and everyone the grief you are going thru.
One of the BEST ways to let them know and fight back is to deny them the $$$, by moving to a different provider. If enough people do that, it shows in their money inflows, and someone might notice.
Multilink ppp is currently the best way to avoid the throttling, and of course Bell is not going to offer you that.
You can also save money too, since alternative ISPs do charge less than Bell, offer higher monthly badwidth quotas (some of them offer unlimited). I am paying $30 a month for service that is probably near $50 at Bell.
Customer service and tech support are also much, much better than what bell offers nowadays (atrocious).
said by Hebrekon :3) is teksavy throtlling two... and buy doing what what said in this forum previously ( dl utrront 1.9a, and port 1723 and all ) fixes that. OR teksavvy is not throlling right now ?? (im saying right now becaue probably they will eventually but wtv that in the futur, and for now id like to DL at 500kb like im supose too) Teksavvy is not throttling, but their clients (and the cleints of most other independant DSL wholesalers) ARE being affected by Bell's imposed throttling during peak times. After 4 pm, until 2 am you are affected.
But that's due to Bell's actions, and there's a fight at the CRTC against that.
said by Hebrekon :Ive did everything from trying port 80, port 1723. and even port fowarding (and hosting them, wtv it means becasue im really clueless in all of this). So ive tryed all of it (hopefully not everything because that means im scrude) and Ive never NEVER manage to KEEP more than a few seconds a speed higher then 100kbs. is there anything I can do to get my dl to at less 300. as I mentioned, the only sure way currently to consistently defeat the throttle is to move to an ISP supporting multilink ppp.
The uTorrent alpha version does work, if you have the correct settings AND there's enough people in the swarm supporting the new udp data transfer modes. But it's hit and miss, while mlppp works, all the time (for now at least).
Good luck! |
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