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dbsanfte

join:2005-03-15
Montreal, QC
·Colbanet

Evading throttling with uTP / uTorrent 1.9a

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results after 25mins during throttling hours
It's strange that a lot of people don't seem to have success with this, because in my experience, forcing uTP in uTorrent with this particular configuration beats the Bell throttle consistently.

So, walkthrough.

You'll need the uTorrent 1.9 alpha, this is a link to the March 24th build: »download.utorrent.com/beta/utorr···.upx.exe

Once you've gotten that, you'll need to do the following.

Set the bittorrent configuration options as you see here in these screenshots.

In the advanced settings, you'll need to force bt.transp_disposition to 10, in order to force uTorrent only to use the uTP UDP protocol.

Note that the specific port setting is important in my experience.

If MLPPP isn't an option for you, this should get you unthrottled reasonably well. Results in the last screenie at 12am during throttling hours, after about 25mins of solid downloading.
MikeA1972

join:2008-02-06
Brantford, ON


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Re: Evading throttling with uTP / uTorrent 1.9a

Depends on your location and has nothing to do with new UT.. You either are, or are not. Personally, I am not 99% of the time. But when they kick it in, no ports in the world will get around it.

BTW.. if you ever figure out a way that is not already well known, keep it to yourself.. don't advertise it.
MikeA1972

join:2008-02-06
Brantford, ON

Re: Evading throttling with uTP / uTorrent 1.9a

said by MikeA1972 See Profile :

Depends on your location and has nothing to do with new UT.. You either are, or are not. Personally, I am not 99% of the time. But when they kick it in, no ports in the world will get around it.

BTW.. if you ever figure out a way that is not already well known, keep it to yourself.. don't advertise it.
I will quote myself.. It only works in certain areas. But come on you fools.. if you find something that does it for you, don't post it. Don't help out the evil empire lmao.. they are watching and reading. Keep your mouths shut.

oxymoron69

join:2004-11-10
Belleville, ON
·TekSavvy Solutions..


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Why are you setting bt.transp_disposition to 10?

Have you done testing to actually prove that this particular setting is making your torrents unthrottled, since it could just be a concidence, or maybe it just seems to be faster to you?

Also would that setting of '10' not potentially eliminate peers from sharing with you (thus slowing you down) if you're only doing uTP in/out? Since not everyone is using it yet?

BTW, here's a quick FYI from the utorrent forums for anyone wondering what the transport disposition field controls and how:

For ut 1.8.3 & 1.9 bt.transp_disposition is a bitfield, so the following numbers can be ADDED or used on their own to get the desired effect:

4 - incoming TCP
8 - incoming uTP
1 - outgoing TCP
2 - outgoing uTP

Specific combinations:
5 - TCP incoming + outgoing only (uTP disabled)
10 - uTP only
13 - TCP incoming + outgoing with uTP outgoing only (*1.8.3 default)
15 - both TCP and uTP, incoming + outgoing (*1.9 default)

13's the recommended setting for 1.8.3 and 15 for 1.9

Oh yeah also, does it make a difference to set your port to 1723? In my tests it makes no noticable impact here.
dbsanfte

join:2005-03-15
Montreal, QC
·Colbanet


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Re: Evading throttling with uTP / uTorrent 1.9a

Avoiding TCP altogether messes with the DPI boxes. That should have been pretty obvious.

I should mention that DPI was definitely active in my area during the above run, because I'd accidentally gotten myself throttled with non-throttled-hours settings (TCP enabled, no encryption...) a few minutes earlier, and had to reset my modem to clear it.

Using these settings I remained unthrottled the rest of the night.
IamGuru

join:2008-10-01
Windsor, ON

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I tried what you suggested unfortunately, my torrent started throttling me on the non-hour throttling time...lol. I bet you're not being throttled.
dbsanfte

join:2005-03-15
Montreal, QC
·Colbanet


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Re: Evading throttling with uTP / uTorrent 1.9a

said by IamGuru See Profile :

I tried what you suggested unfortunately, my torrent started throttling me on the non-hour throttling time
If there's a dearth of uTP enabled hosts, speeds are gonna be slower. And not to put too fine a point on it, but if it's non-throttling hours, I seriously doubt you're being throttled.

This works for me. YMMV.

Jethro86

join:2005-05-27
Winchester, ON
·TekSavvy Solutions..

Re: Evading throttling with uTP / uTorrent 1.9a

said by dbsanfte See Profile :

said by IamGuru See Profile :

I tried what you suggested unfortunately, my torrent started throttling me on the non-hour throttling time
If there's a dearth of uTP enabled hosts, speeds are gonna be slower. And not to put too fine a point on it, but if it's non-throttling hours, I seriously doubt you're being throttled.

This works for me. YMMV.
That's what I found. I had the Beat 1.9 setup as listed above to only use UTP ports. I didn't evade the throttle for me and my download list was maxing at 30-40kbps off throttle time. When I removed the *10 setting my downloads shot up to 100-200kbps. They are for old TV shows and low number of seeds so I need all I can get.
dbsanfte

join:2005-03-15
Montreal, QC
·Colbanet

Re: Evading throttling with uTP / uTorrent 1.9a

During non-throttled hours there's no reason to have to stick to uTP-only, as mentioned I was switching back to TCP/uTP myself.

Of course, new ISP, no longer any need of this, but I'm glad it's helping some.
chronoss2009

join:2008-09-23
wonder what happens when you make DPI box think your torrenting is a SFTP session

hrmmmm

Arbalister

join:2007-11-24
St Catharines, ON
·TekSavvy Solutions..


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Re: Evading throttling with uTP / uTorrent 1.9a

Just tried it here, after watching a transfer that wouldn't get above 28K for about 20 minutes. Downloaded, installed, started 1.9a, same speed...changed the config, hit apply...and the same torrent is now running 150K and climbing.

Edit Oh...just noticed, after the restart changing from 1.8.3 to 1.9a, a second torrent that I had paused earlier in the session restarted...so I've gone from one download at no more then 28K to 2 running simultaneously at 150k and 90K

anOriginalName

@accelio.com
I tried these settings and for the morning my dl's were just sailing along. 4:30pm hit and it was back to crappy usual at 55kb/s. Didn't work for me. If anyone else had some luck with this let us know please!

David_T
TSI, here I am

join:2006-09-01
Oakville, ON
Is disabling DHT a must to get this to work, or did you just happen to do it for personal preference?

Leafie

join:2007-07-23
North York, ON

I've done everything that dbsanfte wrote in his screenshot steps and yes, it does work. I'm now getting 400+ kB/s. I followed everything from getting the new uTorrent 1.9 alpha, changing all the numbers around, and setting any true/false as need be. Works like a charm so a big thanks to you.

Arbalister

join:2007-11-24
St Catharines, ON
·TekSavvy Solutions..

Re: Evading throttling with uTP / uTorrent 1.9a

said by Leafie See Profile :

I've done everything that dbsanfte wrote in his screenshot steps and yes, it does work. I'm now getting 400+ kB/s. I followed everything from getting the new uTorrent 1.9 alpha, changing all the numbers around, and setting any true/false as need be. Works like a charm so a big thanks to you.
Ditto - did *everything* shown in the screenies. Works.

Shada124

@teksavvy.com
Downloaded from link installed and set exactly as your pics said and also worked perfect for me went from 30k to 452K and rising in less then 5 min.

THANK YOU SO MUCH
sugarton

join:2006-11-24
Hamilton, ON
Did everything in the steps, made my speeds a whole lot worse (at normally un-throttled time). Before applying I was getting upwards of 80kbp/s DL, after applying it seemed to be stuck under 10kbp/s.

I'll just deal with the throttle.

It Does Work

@teksavvy.com
Bingo, it does work! Downloading ubuntu right now, prime time, at an average of 375 kB/s.

Excellent.

Fireblade

join:2008-08-27
St Catharines, ON

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This totally works, I have a friend on Tek Savvy/Bell and I set this up for them.
davidbrown

join:2005-05-31
Toronto, ON
·Bell Sympatico

Its not perfect but it can sure help.

Also be sure to get the latest versions of utorrent 1.9 which can be found in the announcement section of the utorrent forum.

You can still be affected but it makes it much harder for them to do so..
DoctorBunsen

join:2008-10-15
Montreal, QC
This worked for me! My speed went from throttled 25 to 440+ as soon as I started changing those settings.

Thank you.
BSAKing

join:2009-03-20
Kanata, ON

Re: Evading throttling with uTP / uTorrent 1.9a

Please bear with me - I am not as experienced as the rest of you, but I am trying to get this to work.

The only version I have been able to get is 1.9 Beta (Build 14981). Is this the correct one to work with?

If so, my info screens in the setup are not exactly as indicated (I have some extra entries). And so far I have had zero success - throttles at 42.6kB/s

l0thar

join:2005-12-29
Far Far Away

Re: Evading throttling with uTP / uTorrent 1.9a

Currently, build 14981 is the most recent and it should work.

I had stuck with 1.6.1 until reading this thread, and thank the original poster for it. The addition of a new way to transport data (uTP) made it interesting to try out.
taytong888

join:2005-06-20
Nepean, ON

No, this didn't work for me on a consistent basis. I use utorrent 1.9beta. Over the weekend it seemed to work but during throttling hours in the week the speed dropped to 20-26 kBps.

mj

join:2008-04-02
Burlington, ON
·TekSavvy Solutions..


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Re: Evading throttling with uTP / uTorrent 1.9a

Yep same here, did everything step by step with 1.8.2 and it didn't work. So went with 1.9a and it worked! 25Kb/s turned into 200+ so I was pretty excited. However, it was short lived and right back to 25KB/s after a while.

The one thing I noticed and don't like about 1.9a is that it IGNORES my u/l limit and just u/l's my MAX.

I'll be going back to 1.8.2 and maybe try virtual box to beat the throttle....otherwise I will just accept it.

Fireblade

join:2008-08-27
St Catharines, ON

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Grab the next version, that was a bug with 908 - now my upload rate is fine. »forum.utorrent.com/viewtopic.php?id=49813

Liquidforce

Now - does this apply to Multi-link MLPPP as well? or can this be done on ANY DSL Service and see the same improvement?
dbsanfte

join:2005-03-15
Montreal, QC

Re: Evading throttling with uTP / uTorrent 1.9a

I was under the impression MLPPP users weren't throttled.
DoctorBunsen

join:2008-10-15
Montreal, QC
·Bell Sympatico

It stopped working for me too so I downloaded the new version and it started working again.

It seems a little wonky and one torrent site I use doesn't allow beta clients but that ZeroShell thing isn't working for me anymore so this is my only option.

Anonymous_
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127.0.0.1
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let me find a well seeded torrent to show off my unthrottled Connection
notce i use 1.5.1 beta 466 much faster then any of the newer ones

i got (see attachment)

Thornhill

@primus.ca

Hello!

Using 1.9 beta build 14981
In Thornhill, Ontario
My ISP is Primus.

Followed the screenshot settings and for a few seconds it worked nicely *after I reseted the router*. and then it's back to maxing out at 30kB/s.

Darns.

Thornhil

@primus.ca

Never. This works.

Using 1.9 beta build 14981
In Thornhill, Ontario
My ISP is Primus.

Followed the screenshot settings and for a few seconds it worked nicely *after I reseted the router*. and then it's back to maxing out at 30kB/s. BUT. after I waited 10 minutes patiently it's up to 100kB/s bobbing up an down. It's now 8:53 pm EST.

not bad
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